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It is amazing to me that even among the peace communities, people are so incredibly torn about what is happening between Israelis and Palestinians. It seems like a madness has spread. You either go one way or another, we forget all means of communication...in fact i am sure we have not yet learned the peaceful means that it would really take to bring about peace. I believe that we have not yet understood the concept of Peace, really. we have only talked about it in forums, we have protested, negotiated, and dialogued (is that a word?). But a commitement to real peace would be a commitment to nonviolence...and as much as we, peacebuilders-makers-keepers, say we are for peace, we are not commited to nonviolence. It is an intergral problem with lifting the sanctions and in the Israeli Palestinian peace efforts. What might it take for us to make that commitment and believe it possible? Peace, Ilise -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq For removal from list, email soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk Full details of CASI's various lists can be found on the CASI website: http://www.casi.org.uk