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Dear all, I thought the letters "CASI" stood for: "Campaign Against Sanctions imposed on Iraq", not "Campaign Against SH". So if Yasser wants to make his point, he should make it on another website. And as we all know: the www is full of anti-SH sites. I think Ghazwan has made his point about "disinformation". I think he's right. And more fundamentally: it is not SH who wants to attack the whole world, it is the George Bush Administration and Tony Blair. And the coming wars are all about oil and the control about natural resources. So why are we talking about SH anyway? Any other person in charge of the Iraqi nation, who would take an independant position, would be elilminated by the USA, or have we forgotten history? Lumumba? Mossadegh? Soekarno? Allende ? And all the others. Carry on posting to CASI, Ghazwan. I find your contributions very valuable. Greetings. Dirk Adriaensens. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ghazwan Al-Mukhtar" <gaz@uruklink.net> To: "Yasser Alaskary" <ya1980@hotmail.com>; "Bert Gedin" <gedinbert@hotmail.com>; <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [casi] disinfo ...... > Hi > > I envy my friend for his capability to "remotely sensing" that I am < > someone working with saddam's regime and dictorial government.>. I hope my > friend will reread my posting of Jan 11,2002 <Re Halabja & political > agendas.htm> at CASI. For 34 years I struggled with "saddam's regime" to > maintain my independent thinking. I do not think that anyone, not even from > London, will be able to intimidate me!! Yes brother I live under "saddam's > regime" and able to be an independent thinker and that is a credit. > If the Iraqi media is full of disinformation (or misinformation) does that > mean that the British press should do the same? If so what is the > difference? > The important point is that this is only one, well documented historical, > example. CASI have repeatedly corrected BBC on this issue. The BBC continued > to use the same "lie" over and over again. I am afraid that they believed > their own lies. > In a dictatorship the dictator "knows" what is "good" for the people and > take a decision "for" them. In democracy the people will make an "informed" > decision. If they make their decision based on "misinformation or > disinformation" it is likely that the wrong decision will be taken "in their > name". > Lastly I think <whoever controls the press, (not the past), controls the > future> > > Ghazwan Al-Mukhtar > Baghdad, Iraq > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yasser Alaskary" <ya1980@hotmail.com> > To: <gedinbert@hotmail.com>; <gaz@uruklink.net>; > <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk> > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 1:05 AM > Subject: Re: [casi] disinfo ...... > > > hi, > > i agree that factual correctness is essential, especially in historical > issues. 'whoever controls the past, controls the future'. > > however, the last person to talk about disinformation is someone working > with saddam's regime and dictorial government. > > yasser alaskary > imperial college iraqi society > > ps. this thursday at 5:30pm there will be a seminar called 'War on Iraq? - > an Iraqi perspective', at imperial college, south kensignton, huxley > building room 340. there will be a slideshow of iraq under 20 years of > saddam and 10 years of sanctions. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Bert Gedin" <gedinbert@hotmail.com> > To: gaz@uruklink.net, casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk > Subject: Re: [casi] disinfo ...... > Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 23:26:27 +0000 > > Hi! The difference between the words, 'misinf.' & 'disinf.', as I understand > it, is that 'disinformation' is a deliberate distortion, e.g. in political > propaganda, or intentionally spreading false rumours about a person or a > situation. 'Misinformation, however, is a genuine mistake. In the context, > Fel.Arb. having referred to "The excellent coverage today in 'The Guardian', > it would seem it was an unintended error. There are, very talented > journalists around, who are passionate about, to the best of their ability, > giving sincere & truthful accounts of events. My feeling is that in some > parts of the world independent > journalism is not only not encouraged, but positively discouraged. Whether > that applies to Iraq, or not, each one of us may judge for himself, or > herself. Were it the case that bad journalism existed in a country, that > would not, I believe, be a valid reason to wage war against that country. > Greetings, Bert Gedin, Birmingham, U.K. > > > >From: "Ghazwan Al-Mukhtar" <gaz@uruklink.net> > >To: <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk>, "Bert Gedin" <gedinbert@hotmail.com> > >Subject: Re: [casi] disinfo ...... > >Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 01:04:04 +0300 > > > >Yesterday it was the BBC today the Guardian tomorrow... Is it a coincident > >or is there a Ministry of "Truth" for all this "misinfo" !! > > > >Ghazwan Al-Mukhtar > >Baghdad, Iraq > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bert Gedin" <gedinbert@hotmail.com> > >To: <asceptic@freenetname.co.uk>; <soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> > >Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 1:19 AM > >Subject: Re: [casi] disinfo ...... > > > > > >Fel. Arb. makes a valid point re. the monitors. But, am I splitting hairs > >in > >suggesting the Subject should have been 'misinfo...', not > >'disinfo...'? Greetings, Bert G., B'ham. > > > > > > >From: "farbuthnot" <asceptic@freenetname.co.uk> > > >To: soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk > > >Subject: [casi] disinfo ...... > > >Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:13:12 +0000 > > > > > >The excellent coverage today in the Guardian was ruined by (p 17) > >'Unscom > > >monitors were expelled in 1999'. So shld have been their sub-editors, > >since > > >the UNSCOM team fled Iraq in the dawn of 16th December '98, leaving their > > >compatriots to a four day blitzkreig.. best. f. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > > >To unsubscribe, visit > > >http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > > >To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > > >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > >To unsubscribe, visit > >http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > >To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. 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