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Hi I envy my friend for his capability to "remotely sensing" that I am < someone working with saddam's regime and dictorial government.>. I hope my friend will reread my posting of Jan 11,2002 <Re Halabja & political agendas.htm> at CASI. For 34 years I struggled with "saddam's regime" to maintain my independent thinking. I do not think that anyone, not even from London, will be able to intimidate me!! Yes brother I live under "saddam's regime" and able to be an independent thinker and that is a credit. If the Iraqi media is full of disinformation (or misinformation) does that mean that the British press should do the same? If so what is the difference? The important point is that this is only one, well documented historical, example. CASI have repeatedly corrected BBC on this issue. The BBC continued to use the same "lie" over and over again. I am afraid that they believed their own lies. In a dictatorship the dictator "knows" what is "good" for the people and take a decision "for" them. In democracy the people will make an "informed" decision. If they make their decision based on "misinformation or disinformation" it is likely that the wrong decision will be taken "in their name". Lastly I think <whoever controls the press, (not the past), controls the future> Ghazwan Al-Mukhtar Baghdad, Iraq ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yasser Alaskary" <ya1980@hotmail.com> To: <gedinbert@hotmail.com>; <gaz@uruklink.net>; <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [casi] disinfo ...... hi, i agree that factual correctness is essential, especially in historical issues. 'whoever controls the past, controls the future'. however, the last person to talk about disinformation is someone working with saddam's regime and dictorial government. yasser alaskary imperial college iraqi society ps. this thursday at 5:30pm there will be a seminar called 'War on Iraq? - an Iraqi perspective', at imperial college, south kensignton, huxley building room 340. there will be a slideshow of iraq under 20 years of saddam and 10 years of sanctions. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bert Gedin" <gedinbert@hotmail.com> To: gaz@uruklink.net, casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk Subject: Re: [casi] disinfo ...... Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 23:26:27 +0000 Hi! The difference between the words, 'misinf.' & 'disinf.', as I understand it, is that 'disinformation' is a deliberate distortion, e.g. in political propaganda, or intentionally spreading false rumours about a person or a situation. 'Misinformation, however, is a genuine mistake. In the context, Fel.Arb. having referred to "The excellent coverage today in 'The Guardian', it would seem it was an unintended error. There are, very talented journalists around, who are passionate about, to the best of their ability, giving sincere & truthful accounts of events. My feeling is that in some parts of the world independent journalism is not only not encouraged, but positively discouraged. Whether that applies to Iraq, or not, each one of us may judge for himself, or herself. Were it the case that bad journalism existed in a country, that would not, I believe, be a valid reason to wage war against that country. Greetings, Bert Gedin, Birmingham, U.K. >From: "Ghazwan Al-Mukhtar" <gaz@uruklink.net> >To: <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk>, "Bert Gedin" <gedinbert@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [casi] disinfo ...... >Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 01:04:04 +0300 > >Yesterday it was the BBC today the Guardian tomorrow... Is it a coincident >or is there a Ministry of "Truth" for all this "misinfo" !! > >Ghazwan Al-Mukhtar >Baghdad, Iraq > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bert Gedin" <gedinbert@hotmail.com> >To: <asceptic@freenetname.co.uk>; <soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> >Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 1:19 AM >Subject: Re: [casi] disinfo ...... > > >Fel. Arb. makes a valid point re. the monitors. But, am I splitting hairs >in >suggesting the Subject should have been 'misinfo...', not >'disinfo...'? Greetings, Bert G., B'ham. > > > >From: "farbuthnot" <asceptic@freenetname.co.uk> > >To: soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk > >Subject: [casi] disinfo ...... > >Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:13:12 +0000 > > > >The excellent coverage today in the Guardian was ruined by (p 17) >'Unscom > >monitors were expelled in 1999'. So shld have been their sub-editors, >since > >the UNSCOM team fled Iraq in the dawn of 16th December '98, leaving their > >compatriots to a four day blitzkreig.. best. f. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > >To unsubscribe, visit > >http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > >To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. >To unsubscribe, visit >http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss >To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. 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