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Re: [casi] RE -On MEMRI

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In a message dated 07/16/2003 6:57:48 PM Central Daylight Time, writes:

> To be fair I don't think their accuracy of their transaltions have ever

MEMRI has oft been critiqued.  I think the primary concern is their selective
nature, or decontextualizing the information.  I would imagine that if you
chose to look selectively at US newspapers, you could find some rather
interesting and rather outrageous things.  I am often amazed at the content which makes
it into small town Texas newspapers which I occasionally read.  Then again we
can read things like Ann Coulters call to invade the Arab countries, kill
their leaders, and christianize them in the much larger newspapers.  The Arab
world newspapers have the same sorts of radical statements in them, all we have
to do is look, or have MEMRI do it for us.  So what, all cultures have their
ups and downs.

Bias is a funny thing, we see it in others, but less easily in ourselves.  It
is all too easy to demonize the other person/motive, but we apply a much
kinder standard to ourselves and those with which we agree.  I have said before,
painfully, George the Lesser (Shrub 2) believes he is doing the right thing.  I
am sure in his tiny little brain he has himself convinced that the Iraqi
people needed "liberating via the BOMB."  I happen to disagree with him as do most
of you.  This does not change the reality that he is a rational actor who
believes in what he is doing, so do we villify him or do we actively disagree
with the premises and work to disprove the premises rather than berate the man?

Having said this, I don't read MEMRI as they generally piss me off.  However
I understand the more relaxed among us like Colin, probably can read even the
far rights ranting and simply catalogue the information for further use and
comparison (when I grow up I hope to be able to as well).  It puts me in the
mood to murder.

Roger Stroope
Northern Arizona University
Flagstaff USA

During the war crimes trials at Nuremberg, psychologist Gustave Gilbert
visited Nazi Reichsmarshall Hermann Goering in his prison cell. "We got around to
the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not
think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war
and destruction," Gilbert wrote in his journal, Nuremberg Diary.

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would
some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can
get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? ... That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a
democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a parliament or a communist dictatorship
... That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to
danger. It works the same way in any country."

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