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Dear Bert and List, Thanks to all like Bert who have helped and I hope that I can call again for your help. Again, if anyone knows of any reliable post-invasion disease survellance data, I would be infinitely grateful to receive it. Will send what I found soon. My life is all too common for the 20th century. Will be publishing a chapter in a book put out by Pluto Press in 9/03. My chapter is at the very bottom of my web site, home.gwu.edu/~nagy The first part of my chapter goes into my motives which derive from having been born during an air raid in W.W.II and being a refuge/displaced person from '45-'49 when two failed politicians, Trueman & Stalin managed to stay in office with their brilliant, mutual (perhaps unconscious) cooking up of the cold war (IMHO -- am just a lowly amateur historian). The other factor is that after I came to the conclusion that the Criminal Justice System was hugely more criminal than the official criminals (IMHO), I did a two year post doc. in public health at Johns Hopkins which sensitized me to the primacy of safe water as the greatest advance in the history of medicine and which horrifies me when it is used as an active OR passive, but highly lethal and torturous weapon against people, especially children, who contrary to St. Augustine, I believe are totally innocent and which international law recognizes as belonging to a specially protected class of noncombatants. Yeah, maybe a 6 year old can toss a rock, but an infant?! What offensive capability does an infant possess? Theoretically, you can reach Kuchinich at www.kucinich.us but none of my phone calls or emails have been answered despite having spoken to his buffed majesty on several occasions before he decided to run for president. (On this side of the pond we have something (IMHO) that vastly exceeds any obscene class system of medieval Europe or even that of the " lower orders of Asia or the South Hemisphere" : we have the very rich and members of Congress and the Lords of the two other branches government -- gods and goddess immune from the law (except if they stupidly say in open court as did Mrs. Helmsly, "Judge, only the little people pay taxes." Here all-the-justice-money-can-buy-lawyers must have swooned and Mrs. Helmsly did indeed get committed to "Club Fed" one one the "prisons" cheerfully hosted by the USAF (I'm not kidding) for the rich not to be confused with the ghastly Camp X-Ray (hosted by the US Army and Marine Corps) or any real and brutal lock up, public or privatized. hope to be in Canada in a month, tom Bert Gedin wrote: > Dear Tom & List, > > Good to have contact with you, yet again. Although very kind of you to give > me special mention, I haven't really done very much. I do lack specialist > knowledge. If, however, required, I am happy to help out with researching > information on the net, if that's of any use. Please let me know if there is > anything I might be able to do, in the way of 'archeology'. > > May I ask you, Tom, about your personal history, even though that may be > somewhat off-topic? You have, earlier, said you were a Hungarian refugee. > Did you leave Hungary in 1956, during the Hungarian > uprising? Were you, possibly, related to Hungarian leader, Imre Nagy, > executed by the Soviets in 1958? > But please only answer these questions if you feel comfortable in so doing. > > Greetings, Bert. > > >From: " Tom Nagy, Ph.D." <email@example.com> > >To: firstname.lastname@example.org > >CC: email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org > >Subject: Re Update of Continued H20Borne disease impact > >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:44:40 -0400 > > > >Dear Colleagues particularly Bert, Attila, et al., > > > > Thank you for your leads and suggestions re the urgent need to update > >the > >splendid pre invasion estimates of civilian deaths with an report of the > >magnitude of the ongoing, passive but fully lethal bioterrorism by water > >in > >Iraq by the US. > > > > I feel this is a case of Rwanda redux in which the heroic pleas by > >Gen. > >Dellaire for light personnel carriers needed to prevent the genocide was > >delayed > >till the genocide burned itself out. In the same manner, making the > >provision > >of safe water even to infants is such a low priority (e.g., Betchtel bought > >tons > >of chlorine from its enormous grant from USIA from a Smyna, Georgia firm > >but > >the chlorine was still in Turkey the last I was able to track it through > >the > >business news wires). My greatest fear is that the infrastructure will > >arrive as > >did the light personnel carriers -- after the epidemics burn themselves out > >unless we can document and publicize and thereby shame the U.S. gov. into > >doing > >the legal, sane, humane thing. > > > > > > I hope to post the surveillance data I have been able to dig up so far > >over > >the weekend and request that if people know of addition reliable > >surveillance > >data, they also post it (or at least its source). > > > >more later, > >tom > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > To contact the list manager, email email@example.com > All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. 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