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[ Presenting plain-text part of multi-format email ] In a message dated 06/10/2002 5:25:09 AM Central Daylight Time, ya1980@hotmail.com writes: > if you look back, it's those associated with the regime who found the report > most offensive and did their utmost best to make either AI look > Whether or not anyone on this list is 'associated with the regime' is the business of the 'anyone' and not you or I. Just as whether or not anyone on this list is associated with the propaganda machine of the US/UK. 'Facts' are an interesting thing, just as opinions are. As to discrediting AI, they do great work and they miss things sometimes too, some of those misses are significant and warrant review, perhaps here, perhaps elsewhere. As to ANYONE on this list trivializing torture, murder, or the role of SH in Human Rights violations, well, that is an interpretation. It would be very easy if life were as simple as some of us try to make it, it isn't. For you or anyone else to suggest that any of us, regardless of political affiliations, would trivialize torture is an example of an oversimplified view of the world, one that lacks nuance. Probably offensive to the accused, yes? We certainly live in a world where the oversimplification of issues is prevalent, unfortunately it leads us right back to a world of Us's and Them's. A useless place to be. The common ground that all of us on this list SHOULD HAVE, is the desire to see sanctions lifted. If that is not what your (collective) goal is then this is the wrong place for you. If that is what your (collective) goal is then we are all members of a group that should be pulling in the same direction, or at least able to do so without accusing each other of unsavory thoughts and deeds or judging political affiliations as appropriate or inappropriate. The word R-E-S-P-E-C-T jumps to mind. To my way of thinking Abi has been absolutely clear on at least two occasions that personal attacks against individuals on this list fall into the category of inappropriate behavior. Out of respect for each other as well as Abi's work on this list, let's keep the allegations and accusations out of this discussion, yes? *Best Wishes* Roger Stroope Peace is a Human Right Austin College _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk