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[ This message has been sent to you via the CASI-analysis mailing list ] Dear Tom, as I have still contacts with people who have been, or are still in Iraq, their testimonies are different from yours. - a woman who has been in Iraq during 2 months (december and january), and stayed with a family, told me there were gunsots and explosions almost every night, and sometimes during the day. And she stayed in Baghdad, Kerbala, Najaf, Samarra and Tikrit. There were many house searchings by occupation forces, there are eliminations (assassinations) of intellectuals going and other atrocities. And there was a lot of resistance. And it seemed well organised. But as resistance is underground, you won't see them openly resisting. I think that is normal. I can imagine what it's like when I hear stories of my parents about the resistance during WWII. They say they didn't know who was with the resistance (the white brigades as they were called). But there were a lot of collaborators killed and also policemen who collaborated with the Germans. So my parents understand the situation in Iraq very well. It seems that you should have lived in a once occupied country to know what resistance means. It is not an open war. The enemy is too powerful. So there will be attacks from time to time and sabotages and explosions. And I don't think that Robert Fisk would invent stories. - the hanging of the soldiers in Fallujah was not at a bridge over the Euphrates, but at a railway bridge. Sources for that: Jordanian Times, Islam Online etc. So the international press was a little too uncareful when they mentiones the Euphrates. But the story seems to be true. I'll copy an interesting article about the killings of intellectuals in Iraq. It seems they want to destroy the brains of Iraq. Greetings. Dirk Adriaensens. Academic accuses Mossad of assassination of Iraqi professors, clerics. The Chairwoman of the Center for Palestinian Studies at Baghdad University, Dr. Huda an-Nu'aymi, has charged that about 100 university professors have been assassinated in Iraq since the Anglo-American occupation began. In addition about 1,000 others have left the country. Speaking in Amman, Jordan, an-Nu'aymi accused the Zionist Mossad of liquidating Iraqi religious leaders. "Israeli" infiltration into Iraq has recently increased sharply as they use the medium of private investment companies in the Maysan area." An-Nu'aymi was taking part in a conference on the situation of Iraqi women under the US occupation that began Wednesday in the Jordanian capital. According to the Saudi Press Agency WAS, she disclosed stories of the kidnapping of Iraqi girls and of assaults by US occupation troops on women prisoners in the concentration camps operated by the invaders. She disclosed violations of human rights and explained that women are taken hostage by the US aggressors in an effort to make family members turn in the woman's husband, brother, or son. In many cases these women themselves are assaulted in various ways. The US invader troops also steal the Iraqis' gold jewellery. An-Nu'aymi said that America's talk about democracy, freedom, and human rights for Iraqis is for domestic US consumption only. Meanwhile no one knows the fate of the oil being plundered by the US invaders. Sources: http://www.islammemo.cc/news/one_news13.asp?IDNews=28047 http://www.islammemo.cc/news/one_news13.asp?IDNews=28046 http://www.islammemo.cc/news/one_news13.asp?IDnews=28031 http://www.islammemo.cc/news/one_news13.asp?IDnews=28018 http://www.aljazeera.net/news/arabic/2004/3/3-25-13.htm http://www.islammemo.cc/news/one_news13.asp?IDNews=28062 http://www.islammemo.cc/news/one_news13.asp?IDnews=28054 http://www.islammemo.cc/news/one_news13.asp?IDnews=28051 http://www.freearabvoice.org/Iraq/Report/report64.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Young" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: <email@example.com>; <> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:03 PM Subject: [casi-analysis] "Resistence" in Iraq > [ This message has been sent to you via the CASI-analysis mailing list ] > > No worries about correcting the howler as you very correctly described. My bad for using a dodgy photocopied map > > Shame that you couldnt find it in your heart (OK I am jumping to conclusions about anatomy here) to make some comment on the actual substance of the story itself. > > I have read reports from Amnesty International saying that American soldiers pick up young Iraqis off the street because they found them in the market eating packet from an MRE and then imprison them for weeks in Abu Ghraib. I have seen American soldiers, they only travel in convoys and never leave their vehicle. The idea of them picking up Iraqis for eating biscuits is absurd, the idea of them walking through markets is absurd, the idea they would imprison someone weeks because of it is absolutely daft. > > So is Amnesty part of a "conspiracy" as you call it? How can I say, all I can say is they are disseminating really stupid invented stories. > > > I read another story about how the economy is growing, the writer quotes a car repairman, who adds that mostly he is fixing up bullet holes in cars. Earlier that day I had walked through a lane that was only car repair shops. And surprise, surprise not one was bullet ridden, nor have I seen one car with a bullet hole. > > I read a story from Robert Fisk last month. About arriving at Baghdad International Airport to accompanying gunfire and small rockets being launched. After 4 days in Baghdad I havent heard a single gunshot, let alone rocket. I find his description impossible to believe. > > Incidently Iraqi TV covered the incident last night, but omitted any mention of bodies being mutilated or the other more fanciful details that are being played out in Britain and America. > > This is not a city at war. There is no hostility to foreigners that I have encountered. > > The fact that so many of the left and the "humanitarians" wish to believe otherwise reminds me nothing more than the great Lewis Carrol poem "The Walrus and Carpenter" > > 'I weep for you, said the Carpenter, I deeply sympathise, > All the while picking out those of the biggest size' > > Cheers > Tom Young > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 > > _______________________________________ > Sent via the CASI-analysis mailing list > To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-analysis > All postings are archived on CASI's website at http://www.casi.org.uk > > > _______________________________________ Sent via the CASI-analysis mailing list To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-analysis All postings are archived on CASI's website at http://www.casi.org.uk