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[ Presenting plain-text part of multi-format email ] Dear Gabriel and casi Apparently "sexing" up information is contagious these days. It was done by respectable governments and got away with it. Small organizations based in London want us to believe that they can "remotely" count the people demonstrating in Baghdad better than the news agencies stationed there. Only fools would believe their figures. Best regards Ghazwan Al-Mukhtar Baghdad, occupied Iraq ----- Original Message ----- From: "Voices in the Wilderness (UK)" <voices@viwuk.freeserve.co.uk> To: <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:41 PM Subject: [casi] Half a million ... or 200? > Dear List Members, > > AFP have reported on Yasser Alaskary's march against 'terrorism' but put the > number of marchers in Baghdad at 200 rather than the half a million the IPO > claim in their press release (see below). > > If the AFP report is accurate then this march is certainly *not* 'the > largest protest to have taken place in Iraq after the fall of Saddam > Hussein's regime in April' (indeed, AFP also reports that yesterday > '[h]undreds of angry Shiite Muslims protested in the Iraqi capital on > Tuesday over the death of a sheikh crushed under a US tank' - see > http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2003%20News%20archives/December/1 > 0n/Shiites%20protest%20in%20Baghdad%20over%20death%20of%20sheikh%20crushed%2 > 0by%20tank.htm). > > Of course if there actually *were* half a million marchers in Baghdad today > we'll no doubt soon see plenty of stories (with pictures) in the media on > both sides of the Atlantic, since it's certainly the 'right' story from the > perspective of the US and British governments. > > Watch this space! > > Best wishes, > > Gabriel > > ****************************** > Thousands take to Iraqi streets to protest "terrorism" > 10th December 2003 > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1514&e=3&u=/afp/20031210/wl_ > mideast_afp/iraq_us_terror_demo_031210162701 > > BAGHDAD (AFP) - Thousands of Iraqis, some watched over by US Apache > helicopters, demonstrated in Baghdad and other cities to condemn "terrorism" > in their country. > > More than 200 protesters from the Iraqi National Congress and other > political parties, women's groups and sheikhs in traditional dress gathered > near the National Theatre in Baghdad and marched to a central Baghdad hotel. > > "This is the national campaign against terrorism and sabotage," said Abo > Thaer, 55, a member of the Iraqi Communist Party. His party members turned > out with giant red flags bearing the hammer and sickle. > > Participants Wednesday said the rallies marked International Human Rights > Day. > > A similar protest last Friday in the capital attracted about 1,000 Iraqis. > > American-led occupying forces who toppled dictator Saddam Hussein in April > are battling daily attacks by insurgents whom they regularly brand > terrorists. > > On Monday a suicide car bomber wounded 58 US soldiers at their base near the > northern capital of Mosul while in Baghdad a bomb killed three worshippers > at a Sunni mosque. > > "Terrorism .... will delay the process of rebuilding," said Eklass Khudhir, > 30, one of four women holding a banner from the Iraqi Women's Organization. > > She said it was their first protest against terrorism. > > Hussein al-Musaya, a former Iraqi exile who helped organize the rally, said > numerous political parties had come together to state their opposition to > terorism. > > "It's also a message of thanks to the coalition force for liberating Iraq > (news - web sites) from the dictator," said Musaya, an official with the > Liberal Republic Iraqi Party. > > "We will not allow the fascists to come back," added Farook al-Shamari, 63. > > "I don't belong to any party but I am against terrorism and fascism. We > lived under the aggression of fascism for 40 years," he said. > > He said he lost his teaching job and was jailed for six months for refusing > to join the ruling Baath party in 1979, the year Saddam Hussein gained > control of the country. > > Qutaiba Khalid, and his wife Taghreed Jasin, both 28, said they were > representing students as well as the Communist Party. > > With a red neckerchief and purple-tinted sunglasses, Khalid said violence > "will endanger the lives of innocent people and it will delay the departure > of the occupying force." > > American helicopters flew above the protesters and at least seven Iraqi > police cars were stationed nearby. Several US soldiers watched from a > discreet distance away. > > More than 2,500 protesters marched in the holy Shiite cities of Najaf and > Karbala south of Baghdad. They asked for the transfer of security from the > coalition to Iraqis. > > A banner carried by the demonstrators in Najaf read, "Killing children is > not resistance." > > Another said: "Saddam Hussein and (Osama) bin Laden are two sides of the > same coin." > > In the Sunni town of Ramadi west of Baghdad, a hotbed of anti-US sentiment, > about 100 people protested after a call by the local council. > > They gathered under the protection of American troops while a > counter-demonstration of about 70 people carrying photos of the Koran and > Mecca threw stones at the Americans. Iraqi police dispersed them. > > Other demonstrations also took place in Baqubah just north of Baghdad, and > at Suleimaniya in Iraqi Kurdistan. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > [mailto:casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk]On Behalf Of Yasser > Alaskary > Sent: 10 December 2003 17:45 > To: casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk > Subject: [casi] IPO Press Release: 1/2 MILLION MARCH IN BAGHDAD AGAINST > TERRORISM > > > 1/2 MILLION IRAQIS MARCH AGAINST TERRORISM IN BAGHDAD > December 10, 2003 > > Contacts > Baghdad: Mr. Sabah Muhsin, Baghdad IPO Chairman: +1 914 360 5278 > > London: Mr. Ahmed Shames, London IPO Chairman: + 44 (0) 798 018 > 2974 > Mr. Yasser Alaskary, Media Affairs Dir.: + 44 (0) 773 638 9400 > http://www.iprospect.org.uk > > > Around half a million Iraqis marched through the capital, Baghdad, to > protest against the terrorism that has killed countless Iraqis in the last 4 > months. > > > "The Iraqi people have spoken very clearly, there is no such thing as > 'Iraqi-resistance', only terrorism by regime loyalists and external > fundamentalists," said Sabah Muhsin, Baghdad Chairman of the IPO. "It's a > painful insult to Iraqis to call these acts resistance." > > > The march is the largest protest to have taken place in Iraq after the fall > of Saddam Hussein's regime in April. During that time there has been a > steady increase in terrorist bombings that have not only targeted coalition > troops, but the UN, Red Cross and the Iraqi police. > > > Notes to journalist: > > 1. The Iraqi Prospect Organisation (IPO) is a network of young Iraqi men > and women, primarily based in Baghdad, and works to promote democracy for > Iraq. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. 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