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[ Presenting plain-text part of multi-format email ] I think it is critical for the Iraqi people to be able to make their own choices, wait, I already said that didn't I. I think it is necessary, as Peter so eloquently pointed out, that the government be legitimate, or, as I and Peter pointed out in the lack of legitimacy, war war war. So, I think it is obvious that the Iraqi people need sovereignty as soon as humanly possible. This will of course not happen while the rulers of the US are busy handing out contracts, no-bid, to their closest campaign contributors and or the companies they personally ran/run/will runwhentheygetoutofoffice. I am sorry, but I already said that too, didn't I? Specifically, I think the Iraqi people need to make their own choices(4th). To arrive at this the US would have to pull out of the fray, corporations and all, and allow a third party, UN, to introduce reform to the corrupt ruling structure which at this time is little more than a figurehead to legitimate the US occupation and the selling off of Iraqi interests, including obviously the oil, all the while driving the country into major debt (IMFWB), wait, I already said all of this too! So, third party, legitimate government. And alas, the killing will continue for a period of time, wait, Peter already said this too. Sadly, under the bad guy SH, yes I said bad guy, probably not strong enough but I don't think my spell check will handle what I really think of the murderer, the Iraqi's had a hard life, of course compounded by the US/un sanctions of the 90s and the support of SH by the US during the 80s. What most of us lobbied for was the reopening of trade and investment so that the once strong Iraqi people could take control in a time of their choosing. Sanctions ended any hope of that happening, but it did prepare the country for an invasion by the US/uk, and some say they don't plan ahead! The sad truth is, Yasser, that there are probably no good solutions right now, but it would be best if the Iraqi people were not treated as have all the other people of the planet(nonwhites) by the US/uk and simply used as a punch line. There are people on this side of the ocean who are becoming even richer than they were on the suffering backs of the Iraqi people. Yasser, you should really read more. I can think of several emails where Peter has discussed the situation, and whether explicitly or implicitly had lesser of evils sorts of suggestions, I can even remember a couple that I have written that had "solutions" either explicitly or implicitly. But you run along now, find some more of that IPO "piece" and throw it back on the wall and see if it sticks, who knows, perhaps some on the list are so intellectually exhausted by Murdoch that they will scoop it up and ingest, not me. By the way, I believe that I have said this before, shame on you for justifying the slaughter of tens of thousands of people to satisfy your hatred of SH. It could have been different, should have been different, shame on you. Please, if your not sharp enough to understand what has been posted to this list by a myriad of people that directly relates to this topic, I would just as soon go back to writing my elected officials, oh wait, they ignore everything which does not support their ideology too. Nevermind, write away , write away. Apologies to Colin and Elga for my sarcasm and innuendo. Roger Stroope Northern Arizona University Flagstaff USA ~Just 10% of our military budget spent yearly on the United States could give every high school graduate a college education for four years. ~The proposed $48 billion increase in military spending for next year (2004) is bigger than the total military budget of any other country on earth. _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk