FW: [casi] Regarding 'Testimony of the Iraqi Doctor' ---- Give me a break!

["Muhamed Ali" <Muhamed.Ali@DELETETHISHackney.gov.uk>]

Dear list members,
                  I agree with Roger Stroope's objection to the use of
bad language, though not necessarily his views. But it is one thing
preaching to others and quite another to practise it oneself. Are not
you the same person, an academic from a place of learning, who responded
to my e-mail of 6th June 2003 as follows:

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In a message dated 06/06/2003 11:07:36 AM Central Daylight Time,
mali@gw.hackney.gov.uk writes:

> I urge you to read this article, especially the last two paragraphs. I

> feel
>

"I would imagine that I can count the individuals who would agree with
this
article (casi members) on one hand, perhaps on two fingers.  As to your
pre-war prognosis being vindicated, perhaps you should go to a hospital
in Iraq, any hospital in Iraq, and see how vindicated you are.
Yours in idiocy,

Roger Stroope
Austin College
Sherman Texas, USA
www.austincollege.edu"

I did understand the cultural connotation of "two fingers" in western
culture but I declined to be dragged down to such level of "honest
dialogue". I left it to others on the list, some of whom must have read
it and understood it. I can not think of an appropriate saying in
English, but there is a famous verse in Arabic.
I even agree with Roger's last paragraph with the proviso of
substituting VnStroope@aol.com for dzepplin@charter.net.

Yours in politeness,
Muhamad

-----Original Message-----
From: VnStroope@aol.com [mailto:VnStroope@aol.com]
Sent: 15 August 2003 14:34
To: dzepplin@charter.net; casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk
Subject: Re: [casi] Regarding 'Testimony of the Iraqi Doctor' ---- Give
me a break!


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In a message dated 8/15/03 5:21:15 AM Central Daylight Time,
dzepplin@charter.net writes:


> Especially the ones that boast this 'holier
> than thou, peace & love' bullshit.

Clearly you are "here" on CASI for one purpose, to stir up trouble.  You
hurl
insults at human beings who have sincere concerns, mischaracterize their
words and certainly their thoughts, oversimplify the issues, and use
foul language
when you run out of other things to write.  If you had any sincere
intention
to engage the individuals on this list in honest dialogue you perhaps
would
understand how we have arrived at our conclusions.  We have of course
heard the
premises from which you proceed for a very long time and I for one find
your
rhetoric tired and dated.

For me, all emails that originate from 'dzepplin@charter.net' will
receive
their due respect, which is to say none at all, I am thankful that my
delete key
works.

Roger Stroope
Northern Arizona University
Flagstaff USA

~Just 10% of our military budget spent yearly on the United States could
give
every high school graduate a college education for four years.

~Fact:the proposed $48 billion increase in military spending for next
year
(2004) is bigger than the total military budget of any other country on
earth.

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