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Re: [casi] BBC 2 Newsnight

Dear Lila & List,

Thank you for your scientific analysis re. the government's evidence for
going to war.

You are, perhaps rightly(?), more charitable than some of us, who believe
that those involved with their war-mongering activities may be so
bone-headed as to be completely past any normal, rational thinking. Their
logic is that of the Mad Hatter's tea party, and their science  that of Dr.
Frankenstein (USA) and his monster-creation (UK), who's brain-cells, in
their cul-de-sac, when ordered to assist in world domination, react in the
way the monster knows best: "Yes, Master!". Some people are concerned with
truth - others with lies. Some appear not to know the difference.

Yours verily,

Bert Gedin.

>From: "Lila Patel" <>
>To: <>
>Subject: [casi] BBC 2 Newsnight
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:37:17 +0100
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>Yesterday on Newsnight I saw Glen Rangwala, Tony Wright, MP and Phil
>Woolas, MP discuss Alistair Campbell's answers to the Parliamentary
>Every MP or person called to defend the government's evidence for going
>to war insist that the 'dodgy dossier'  is true. Phil Woolas did that
>last night.
>We are told that the facts are true as regards weapons of mass
>The parameters of scientific investigation or truth holds that there are
>absolute truths and relative truths. All truths fit into these
>categories. Evidence regarding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction fit
>into the category of relative truths.
>This means that the weapons Iraq possessed were liable to change in
>quantity and quality over a period of time.
>The only way of finding out was through inpsections. What inspections
>revealed years ago would not be as accurate as what inspection would
>have revealed in February 2003, before the war.
>As neither the US or UK had inspectors investigating Iraq weapons of
>mass destruction in Iraq, it fell on the international community to see
>what Hans Blix could come up with.
>The US and UK started the war without backing from the UN Security
>Council on the basis of relative truths which were still being
>investigated by Mr Blix.
>Robin Cook MP has said several times that if Iraq was seriously building
>long range nuclear war heads, the evidence would be visible by
>During the recent military bombardment, no 'Allied' troops were targeted
>with biological, chemical and nuclear weapons.
>Since the end of the war, no 'Allied troop' has suffered from any of
>these weapons at the behest of the Iraqis.
>No major find of weapons that were threatening the western world have
>been found in Iraq.
>This is at a time when the 'Liberators' control the country and can have
>access anywhere, unlike Mr Blix.
>The truth, the whole truth, the evidence is still missing like a massive
>black hole in the universe.
>Dates regarding evidence of WMD need to be known and established.
>Without dates, it's meaningless. What may be valid 12 years ago, may not
>be valid now.
>Evidence has to be based on truths at a given date to be meaningful in
>any context. As the validity of truths can diminish as time lapses.
>I think Mr Alaistar Campbell, Mr Blair, PM and the government's
>propoganda machine need lectures on the theory of knowledge before they
>address the nation on what is truth and what is relative truth.
>Lila Patel
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