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--- firstname.lastname@example.org wrote: > > >Indeed - it's a matter for further research by the > >scientific community. It does not need > scare-mongering > >by the press. > > I'm no fan of the press. Some difficulties with > testing GMOs, however, is > thinking of all the possible problems, and the > political pressures > (recall thalidomide and the monarch butterfly > problem). That's why we have NCBI BLAST. Clearly this is an area that needs thoroughly researching before its widespread use. I'm not trying to say anything else. I don't object to that research being done in the UK or US. I don't object to that research being done in Iraq (the way I see it - the majority of intelligent thinking 'westerners' who go to Iraq end up on lists like this sooner or later). They will also indirectly help the economy over there (they've got to buy stuff from somewhere). > > >never seen them in the press! All I tend to see is > >"This is GM - isn't it awful." No attempt is ever > made > >to tell people the facts. > > We see a lot of that form the press, particualrly > regarding Iraq. > > >Somebody has to make the decisions! Where do you > draw > >the line on what decisions the US can make? Surely > you > > One easy to draw line is if an action is necessary. > I've seen that Iraq's > wheat crop is a bumper one this year, but harvesting > it is problematic. > If GMOs are planted by the US, who is pushing them > worldwide, I can't see > it being done for altruistic reasons. I didn't know Iraq had a bumper wheat crop. At least there is some good news at the moment. > > >would support a decision to repair the water > treatment > >facilities, no matter who makes it. > >The decisions that are made are my primary concern > - > >who makes them is less important. > > I think who makes them (and why!) are quite > important. Considering the current humanitarian situation, I couldn't disagree more! If - as an example - the US/UK decided that it's trrops were at risk because of the water supply and sorted it out - I would be happy that it was being fixed (and quickly). As long as it's fixed I don't care who does it, I don't care why and I don't care who makes the right decision (even if for the wrong reasons). > One factor that > runs through all of this is the agenda of the > corporations. Even in the > US there it is a struggle for the people to be > involved, just with > labeling. Science needs objectivity, and those > profiting from the big > corporations are hardly objective. Those big corporations are doing very little research on the subject (lucky that). Most is being done by universities and released. Most research in universities is objective. The only work they tend to do is growing the actual test crops. > > In Iraq there are a slew of decisions and work > positions denied to Iraqis > for reasons of politics and money. As far as GMOs, > there are quite a few > competent Iraqi scientists and medical people. I don't disagree with any of this! But we can't expect the US to act as anything but an occupying power (it won't stop us trying to stop them), at least until the inevitable large-scale rebellion. > > The Iraqis have done remarkably well running the > country considering the > conditions they have had to work under. There is an > arrogance in the > US/UK -- an attitude of "we know best" -- which is > not only impractical > in many areas but builds further resentment and > artificial dependence > (and US corporate profits). This is another situation where we can put as much pressure on the US/UK to change their attidue but we cannot rely on being sucessful. We also need to try to push them into making the right decisions while they're in power (even if they make those decisions for the wrong reasons) Alun Harford __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email email@example.com All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk