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Thanks to Roger and women such as Felicity and Pilippa who are become/have been and remain the conscience of CASI (in my humble and falible and non-elite opinion). tom P.s. I fully recognice to the incedible work of a some members of the elite such as Seb whom I presume is one of the people I would consider an elite but is nevertheless consistently fair and decent despite years of exhaustive work. t baseborne and base-educated "dirty nothing" as the top cheese of UTexas called us. >===== Original Message From VnStroope@aol.com ===== >[ Presenting plain-text part of multi-format email ] > >for those paying attention to the treatment of the savages by the civilized. > >Roger Stroope >Austin College >Sherman Texas, USA >www.austincollege.edu > > > > >To: <Peoples_War@yahoogroups.com> >Cc: <Anti-War-News@yahoogroups.com>, <iac-discussion@yahoogroups.com> >From: "Stasi" <stasi@lineone.net> >Mailing-List: list iac-discussion@yahoogroups.com; contact iac-discussion-owner@yahoogroups.com >Delivered-To: mailing list iac-discussion@yahoogroups.com >Precedence: bulk >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:53:46 +0100 >Subject: [iac-disc.] Twenty Iraqi POW's claim abuse by coalition troops - Sunday Times > >Twenty Iraqis claim abuse by coalition troops >=============================== >Dipesh Gadher and Jonathon Carr-Brown >SUNDAY TIMES > > >MORE than 20 Iraqi prisoners of war have accused British and American troops >of mistreating them in custody. >Amnesty International, the human rights group, has been presented with >complaints ranging from allegations of prisoners being kicked and beaten >with weapons to the application of electric shocks. > >The organisation, which is seeking to corroborate the claims, believes some >of the acts described constitute torture and could be in flagrant breach of >international law. > >The new allegations come in the wake of a Ministry of Defence (MoD) probe >into claims that a group of British soldiers photographed themselves >"torturing" Iraqi captives. > >The government has sought to contrast the fair conduct of British troops >with the brutal methods used by the deposed Iraqi regime. Tonight the BBC >will broadcast controversial footage of the bodies of two British bomb >disposal experts who were killed by Iraqi militiamen following an ambush in >southern Iraq. > >The decision to air the seven-second clip, originally shown by Al-Jazeera, >the Arab satellite news channel, has angered the families of Staff Sergeant >Simon Cullingworth and Sapper Luke Allsopp. However, the BBC claims the >footage, in which the dead soldiers' faces have been obscured, is "in the >public interest" as it highlights the difference in news values between >Al-Jazeera and western broadcasters. > >During the war Tony Blair claimed the two men had been executed, but >military personnel told their families they had been killed in action. This >weekend it emerged that Khalid Barour, a senior Ba'ath party official >arrested in connection with their deaths, has been released without charge. > >The MoD investigation into the "torture photos" scandal was triggered last >week after an 18-year-old soldier handed in a film at a processing >laboratory in Tamworth, Staffordshire. One of the photographs appears to >show a gagged and bound Iraqi prisoner suspended by rope from a fork-lift >truck being driven by a laughing soldier. > >Other pictures apparently show British soldiers forcing semi-naked PoWs to >engage in sex acts, real or simulated. > >Last night, Gary Bartlam, the soldier from the 1st Battalion the Royal >Regiment of Fusiliers who handed in the film, was being questioned by >military police. Investigators are believed to be interviewing other members >of Bartlam's eight-man unit and may question other men in the battalion. > >Kelly Tilford, who developed the film, said: "I felt sick when I looked at >the pictures. I immediately realised something terribly wrong had happened >and something had to be done." > >Those involved in mistreating PoWs could face military prison as well as a >dishonourable discharge. > >Evidence that abuse of PoWs was widespread would be highly damaging to a >government already reeling from claims that it put pressure on the security >services to "sex up" a dossier on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction to >justify the war. > > > > > > > >------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> ><FONT COLOR="#000099">Get A Free Psychic Reading! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. >To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss >To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk Tom Thomas J. Nagy, Ph.D. Assoc. Prof. of Expert Systems George Washington Univeristy Sch. of Business & Public Mgt. Washington, D.C. 20052 home.gwu.edu/~nagy _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk