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Re: [casi] Mass Graves



if you go to Iraq now and go to the residential areas, almost every house
has a big black banner with either the names or pictures of family members
that were executed by saddam's regime. each house has at least 2 or 3.
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From: "farbuthnot" <asceptic@freenetname.co.uk>
To: <soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:51 AM
Subject: [casi] Mass Graves


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> Dear List,
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> Any chance of CASI supporting this?
> The Mass Graves of al-Mahawil:
> The Truth Uncovered
>
> http://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/iraq0503/
>
> Or have the HRW people sold their souls to the devil?
>
> Ahmed
>
>
> I have read the HRW material carefully and it does seem more and more
> extraordinary the - inspite of stated protests - pretty odd that HRW have
> not literally yelled their heads off re the heavy diggers used by US
> military etc to 'help' excavation - and demanded the securing of the sites
> pending forensic experts examination.
>
> I do wonder whether (and here, again in no way am I querying the graves -
> tho' forensic is vital not alone for possible identification and 'closing'
> for relatives, but to really establish numbers) whether the reluctance of
> the military is that they have been told not to intervene as some will be
US
> mass graves from the last Gulf war. First the burying alive of young
> conscripts by US bulldozers, but many soldiers who were on burial detail
> tell me that there are numerous mass graves of differing sizes, all over
the
> south of Iraqi soldiers mown down in 1991 and just buried, with no effort
at
> identification, reporting to the Red Cross/Cresecent etc., collecting of
> identification.
>
> There's a lot of questions raised by the HRW reading, in too much haste to
> touch on others that jumped out at me know, but would be interested in
> others comments.
>
> Maybe Alun is right. In the Balkans when we wanted to find bad buys and
show
> our equally reprehensible and shocking assault (on route to the Caspian
and
> to establish bases there) was justified, care was taken (though the
initial
> claims of vast numbers did dwindle.) Who cares about Iraqis, they are more
> isolated than ever, unable to compain, are only A-rabs - and the US has
> achieved its aim : grabbed the oil. Dead or alive, Iraqis can rot.
>
> Seeing that little boy kiss Blair on the cheek yesterday, too young to
know
> the two generations of children whose lives had been extinguished or
> blighted over the last thirteen years, by a policy Blair backed so
> enthusiastically - as this 'war' - I remembered another kiss on the cheek
in
> the region two thousand years ago, to indicate a betrayal. That placed on
> the chee kofJudas. An unintentional symbolysm. With the pack of lies on
> which the assault was built unravelling by the minute, it may yet come
back
> to haunt him. Let's hope the little mite doesn't die from the effects of
> depleted uranium, in poisoned Basra, like so many before him.
>
> Best, felicity a.
>
>
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