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Dear Alun et al., I am comming to the conclusion that the deal struck with the devil by AI and many of their ilk, is to attack the proximate cause of torture and other attrocities, but underplay the underlying causes such as the lust for looting the world and full specral dominance by empires such as the U.S. The win for AI is that it is not hassled by the U.S.G., but the downside is that AI is never permitted (or self-censors itself ) to refrain from sustained attack on underlying causes if these are the policy of a super power like the U.S. gov. Case in point, the ad campaign that AI rightly directs at select evil dicttators while never hinting that said dictators were set up and are kept in power by the U.S. gov. E.g., has AI made a a high visibility "prisoner of conscience" of Rollings and other members of the Int. Solidarity Team rotting in Israeli jails or being kicked out of Isreal or being beaten, or being denied entry into Istrael for acting nonviolently on the premeise that all people are entitled to human rights, even Palestinians? Wonder if the the horrific murder of the woman run over by an armored Istrael gov. buldozer which then backed up and ran her over a second time did not turn into a big deal at AI or similar big, respectable gropus of its ilk. Am I wrong about all or any of this? I hope so, but doubt it.... The worse example of "worthy" vs "unworthy" victims is provided by the International Holocaust Museum here in D.C., largely funded by the U.S.Gov. IHM mandate includes preventing genocide. the IHM has issued genocide alerts and warnings, but never on the impending 3rd genocide of Iraq by US government's causual procrastination in permitting, contrary to Geneva, water treatment plants running out of clorine in S. Iraq in a matter of just a very few days. This situation is particularly ghastly in view of the speculative nature of IHM genocide alerts and warning on comparatively flimsy speculation in the case of "worth" victims. This stands in stark contrast with the depletion of chlorine which cause genocide on a grand scale and was reported even by the BBC as early as April (but not reported on since, if memory serves). As usual, Bert raisis the urgent questions that are all too often ignored by "respectable" high profile intellectuals and their insitutes, tragiically all to often in my view, by CASI itself. For an really original argument that U.S. policy on Iraq falls into a special category that is not technically genocide because it is even worse than genocide, see Gordon's article in the Yale law journal re int. law and justice. hanging on, mosty out of a sense of ethic responsibilit a la Szilard to hope, Tom Please CASI contributers respond with your inate courage and compassion to , to describe and produce actions which can be quickly adopted to shame the US/UK to do the right thing before yet another genocide "happens" in Iraq. To quote another Brit(?), I swear it's not too late. >===== Original Message From Alun Harford <alunharford@yahoo.com> ===== >--- Bert Gedin <gedinbert@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Dear Tom & List, >> >> It may be very useful to lobby Amnesty >> International, esp. as you have >> unique knowledge, in these matters. And for others >> too. Personally, I have >> reservations about AI. Whilst I certainly wouldn't, >> as some dismiss the >> organisation out of hand (I am a member), I really >> do wonder if, re. >> sanctions on Iraq, AI didn't keep an unduly low >> profile. They would say, so >> I believe, that sanctions were outside their remit. ><snip> >They are far from being outside their remit! >Amnesty International's vision is of a world in which >every person enjoys all of the human rights enshrined >in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other >international human rights standards. > > >Universal Declaration of Human Rights: > >Article 3. >Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security >of person. > >Alun Harford > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. >http://search.yahoo.com Tom Thomas J. Nagy, Ph.D. Assoc. Prof. of Expert Systems George Washington Univeristy Sch. of Business & Public Mgt. Washington, D.C. 20052 home.gwu.edu/~nagy _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk