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[casi] Highlights of the interview with Saddam with Dan Rather

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On The Eve Of War
Feb. 26, 2003

His country is surrounded by one of the most lethal fighting forces ever assembled, yet in his 
first interview with an American reporter in more than a decade, Saddam Hussein remains defiant. 
Defiant - even in the face of an impending war that seems certain to end his rule and, quite 
possibly, his life.

Dan Rather met him on Monday, in the oldest and largest presidential palace, at a time when the 
U.N. arms inspectors have accused him of having prohibited missiles. And at a moment when President 
Bush has said time has run out, that the only thing Saddam can do to prevent war is to disarm 
immediately. Anything short of that, the president says, is a game.

At this moment, the chief weapons inspector Hans Blix is preparing what could be his final report 
to the U.N. In a matter of weeks, with or without international support, the American and British 
forces could begin an all-out assault on Baghdad.

Rather: Mr. President, do you expect to be attacked by an American-led invasion?

Translator for Saddam Hussein: We hope that the attack will not take place. But we are bracing 
ourselves to meet such an attack. To face it. You’ve been here for a few days, you see how people 
live. They live normally, they get married, they visit each other, but at the same time they hear 
the news. The officials in America keep talking about attacking Iraq. And it’s normal that the 
people prepare themselves for such a possibility. At the same time they are praying to Allah to 
stop the Americans from going through with it and to spare the Iraqis from the harm that those on 
the bandwagon of evil want to inflict upon them.

Rather: Are you afraid of being killed or captured?

Translator for Saddam Hussein: Whatever Allah decides, we are believers. We believe in what he 
decides. There is no value for any life, without faith. When we were young, ordinary people in 
Iraq, before, the Iraqi people had suffered a lot of deprivation and backwardness. We decided to 
place ourselves to the service of our people. Bear with me. My answers are long.

Rather: Mr. President, I have all night.

Translator for Saddam Hussein: We did not ask the question whether we were going to live or die. 
It's morally unacceptable to ask such a question. Nothing is going to change the will of God. The 
believer still believes that what God decides is acceptable.

Narration: But we reminded President Hussein that he has more earthly concerns –- more than 
missiles that U.N. inspectors say have a longer range than permitted threatening Iraq’s neighbors 
and capable of attacking American troops in Kuwait.

Rather: Mr. President -- do you intend to destroy the Al Samoud missiles that the United Nations 
prohibits? Will you destroy those missiles?

Translator for Saddam Hussein:
(pause) (nat) We have committed ourselves to Resolution. It is on this basis that we have conducted 
ourselves, and it is on this basis that we will continue to behave. As you know, we are allowed to 
produce land to land rockets with a range of up to kilometers, and we are committed to that.

Rather: I want to make sure that I understand, Mr. President. So, you do not intend to destroy 
these missiles?

Translator for Saddam Hussein:
Which missiles are you talking about? We do not have missiles that go beyond the prescribed ranges, 
by the U.N.

Rather: I mean, the missiles that Hans Blix says that he wants a commitment from you that they will 
be destroyed.

Translator for Saddam Hussein: No violation has been made by Iraq to anything decided by the United 
Nations. If the intention is to rewrite those resolutions, then we will be entering a new 
framework. A framework in which the United States will be made to forsake its own position and take 
a new road towards harming Iraq.

In the interview, Saddam Hussein gave no indication he will capitulate to an ultimatum from Chief 
Weapons inspector Blix -- to begin destroying the missiles by this weekend. Indeed he hinted he 
will not. Saddam also rejected Bush Administration allegations that besides the missiles delivery 
system he still has weapons of mass destruction.

Translator for Saddam Hussein: I think America and the United States and the world also knows that 
Iraq no longer has the weapons. And I believe the mobilization that's been done was in fact done 
partly to cover the huge lie that was being waged against Iraq, about chemical, biological, and 
nuclear weapons. That is why, when you talk about such missiles, these missiles have been 
destroyed. There are no missiles that are contrary to the prescription of the United Nations in 
Iraq. They are no longer there.

Narration: The Bush Administration says Saddam Hussein is just trying to fool the world one more 
time about his missiles and his weapons of mass destruction. And he faces a new U.N. resolution 
accusing him of failing to prove he has disarmed. A resolution which, if passed, would in effect 
authorize war.

Rather: Will the new proposed United Nations resolution, the one that's just out this week -- will 
this make any difference at all in your position?

Translator for Saddam Hussein: The basic position, there is no change. We have not pursued any 
weapons of mass destruction. So, what do they want to issue new resolutions about now?

Rather: So basically, no change in your position.

Translator for Saddam Hussein: The basic stand of our position is clear. We do not compromise our 
independence or our dignity or our freedom. At the same time we will continue to commit ourselves 
to what has been decided by the United Nations. If the new resolutions infringe upon our dignity 
then our position towards such a resolution will be in line with our previous positions.

Rather: Mr. President, have you been offered asylum anywhere? And would you, under any 
circumstances, consider going into exile, to save your people death and destruction?

Translator for Saddam Hussein: I can understand the motive behind your question. This is a very 
American style. And it may not be liked by some. But I can understand. However, I will answer your 

Rather: Thank you.

Translator for Saddam Hussein: I was born here in Iraq and I was born as a genuine believer. I am 
proud to have been born fearing God, and I have taught my children the value of history and the 
extreme importance of iman, of our heritage, that we must maintain the honor of nationalism, and 
pan-Arabism. The importance of that is essential to the nation and to the Arab nation.

And now, I am also teaching this to my grandchildren. And-- I have always talked to the Iraqi 
people in this sense, since the days of our underground-- freedom-fighting. We do not change our 
position. Our position is basic. We have been born in Iraq. This is part of a glorious nation. A 
great Arab nation. And we have lived here. That is why, talking about asylum, whoever decides to 
forsake his nation is not true to the principles. We will die here in Iraq. We will die in this 
country and we will maintain our honor. The honor that is-- required of our people. I believe that 
whoever asks Saddam to-- or, offers Saddam asylum in his own country, is in fact a person without 
morals because he will be directing an insult to the Iraqi people. The Iraqi people who have chosen 
Saddam Hussein, unanimously, to continue to lead the people of Iraq

Narration: The Iraqi President told us that the first Bush administration threatened it would bomb 
Iraq back to a pre-industrial age and then attacked his country with thousands of warplanes and 
helicopters and missiles.

Saddam Hussein: Colleges were destroyed and bridges were destroyed and palaces. They destroyed 
buildings, factories, they killed people and elderly. But they did not push Iraq back into the 
pre-industrial age.

Narration: Saddam said his country stood up to the challenge from one Bush administration in and, 
if forced to, will stand up to this new Bush Administration as well.

Saddam Hussein: We hope that war will not take place but if war is forced upon us, then Iraq will 
continue to be here. This country with a history of over years. This country, the cradle of the 
first civilizations of humanity, will not finish just like that even though a huge power may want 
it to be like that. Nobody, nobody should accept that Iraq will finish in such a way.

Rather: Mr. President, Americans are very much concerned about anyone's connections to Osama bin 
Laden. Do you have, have you had, any connections to al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden?

Translator for Saddam Hussein: Is this the basis of the anxiety in the minds of U.S. officials? Or 
is it the basis of anxiety in the minds of the people of the United States?

Rather: Mr. President, I believe I can report accurately, that it's a major concern in the minds of 
the people in the United States.

Saddam Hussein: We have never had any relationship with Mr. Osama bin Laden. And Iraq has never had 
any relationship with al Qaeda. And I think that Mr. bin Laden himself has recently, in one of his 
speeches, given-- such an answer, that we have no relation with him.

Rather: Do you or do you not agree in principle, with the attack?

Translator for Saddam Hussein: Let me tell you absolutely clearly. We believe in humanity. We 
believe, in accordance with what Allah, the God Almighty, has taught us. In the same way that God 
has taught humanity as a whole. That there must be a law governing humanity, and governing 
relations in humanity. That there should not be an aggressor, while others are silent about the 
aggression. There should not be a killer, while those who watch and applaud the killing.

Rather: Not so long ago, you were clearly hailed by Arabs from Palestinians to Jordanians 
throughout the Arab world as the quote Arab Avenger. Are you still relevant on the Arab street? Or 
has Osama bin Laden made you with other Arabs irrelevant? If you can understand the question. Thank 

Translator for Saddam Hussein: This is not our goal. What we want is not a personal issue. What we 
want is what Allah wants and what our nation wants. We want our nation to be happy, not to be 
spoken of as heroes. The most basic thing to be said about Saddam is that he is a true son of his 
nation… and to say he did his best for his people and his nation.

Rather: And he does or does not agree that Osama bin Laden is now-- the champion of the Arab 

Translator for Saddam Hussein: You, how do you see it? Mr. Rather is an intelligent person. I 
believe that he wants to get to the truth and not merely provoke or to try to get someone to say 
something that might be held against him. The most essential thing is to stop the aggression 
against our nation and the Iraqi people. You see how the Palestinians are killed on their land, and 
their homes are demolished and their properties are destroyed and no one is trying to take away 
their handcuffs, to free them. So if you in America consider Osama bin Laden a hero, we are not 
jealous of him. And if the Arabs consider him a hero, we are not jealous of him. Jealousy is for 
women. And men are not supposed to be jealous of one another.

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