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On 18 Feb 2003 at 21:17, Dermot Moynihan wrote: > I'm not *questioning* their motives. I'm fairly convinced of them. Given that there's been no expression of this in the media and I found none from the 50 odd strangers I talked to on the march. I am surprised at this opinion and what must inform it. > Incidentally, what's insulting about wanting to put your own > children's lives before those of other people's? At the end of the day > none of us really practice *equality*. We put those we care for ahead > of everybody else. This is not useful - the same logic shows that there are no 'pacifists', everyone's only interested in self-preservation etc. > No, but they may well fear something nasty happening on the > underground or to their kids somewhere when they're not around to > protect them. I agree that plenty of people feel this way. I don't think many (if any) came on the march for that reason. Lots of people were afraid to go on the march especially after the security warnings. > >Things have changed since 1991, but not in the way that you argue. In > >1991 and in Yugoslavia, some justification, however little you may > >agree with it, could be made for intervention, > > I see no argument for military intervention in either of those two > examples. With all due respect, your view (and mine) are not the issue here :) > I'm suggesting when dealing with somebody who "has very real fears of > terrorist attacks" as the original post mentioned, that we might > inform them how what they fear is more likely to occur if Iraq is > actually attacked. agreed > I would *rather* appeal to people's sense of morality. However, If > they are protesting against the war because of a sense of > self-preservation, i.e. as a tactic, appealing to their sense of > morality is likely to be a waste of time. But worth trying none the > less. The morality line is what would get longer term commitment. Many, many people are 'changed' because they went on that march. > *Why* they marched becomes important only because we are trying to > build a vast movement to prevent future wars. And because we want them > to march again. And again. agreed Mark Parkinson Bodmin Cornwall _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email email@example.com All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk