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Yep, Cathy And as the Good Diplomat's memoirs make clear (see also Misha Glenny's "The Fall of Yugoslavia") his diplomacy was comfortable enough with "ethnic cleansing" in the Krajina--as long as the Serbs were on the receiving end of it, courtesy Franjo Tudjman. Max Le Blond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Aitchison" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: "Nathaniel Hurd" <email@example.com> Cc: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [casi] POTENTIAL BLAIR GOV. UNSC TACTIC (Richard Holbrooke) > In message <F27zmfv2NkkSDEC5fHE0000d9d4@hotmail.com>, Nathaniel Hurd > <email@example.com> writes > >Holbrooke is a veteran diplomat who knows how the diplomatic process works. > >In particular, as a former US diplomat, he is surely familiar with how this > >process often functions in order to favor US officials' objectives. Note, > >e.g., in the full transcript his comment: "[SCR] 1441, one of the best > >resolutions ever crafted in the U. N.". > > I wonder, is Holbrooke also a veteran of the kind of massive protests > and civil disobedience that will take place as soon as war is declared? > > Will he be happy to see TV pictures of policemen removing 80 year old > women holding photos of their grandsons from the steps of public > buildings up and down the land? > > People already believe that the war is about control of resources and > they don't trust their leaders' motives. > > Quite apart from greater scepticism, there is much greater multi- > cultural empathy and awareness nowadays, especially among younger > people: Iraqis are not seen as 'the enemy', cardboard cut-out style, as > may have been the case with enemies in the past - something that > governments relied on to mobilise their populace. > > Today, many ordinary people in the West identify more with ordinary > Iraqis than with their own leaders - and this is something that US/UK > governments just have not grasped. > > Maybe I'm wrong, but even in 1991 I don't remember getting to hear > reports of the human costs to the Iraqis until after the war - like > Maggie O'Kane's report of Iraqi women searching in the twilight for > their menfolk, looking for their loved ones among the wounded and the > dead. In this war, alternative, independent pictures and eye-witness > reports will be circulating around the world via the internet within > hours. > > Ordinary people across the world will oppose and 'defeat' this war, even > if the leaders make it seem inevitable. The next challenge will be to > find a peaceful model for solving crises caused by aggression, > oppression and self-interested manipulation of resources, both in this > conflict and in future ones. > > Cathy Aitchison > > > -- > Cathy Aitchison > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > To contact the list manager, email firstname.lastname@example.org > All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email email@example.com All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk