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Dear Hassan, group I don't know if the Pope personally knows much about Iraq but the Roman Catholic Church as a whole ought to since so far as I can see the main body of Christians in Iraq are attached to Rome. I assume that this is what is behind the Vatican's consistent opposition to war and I assume also that it reflects their quite intimate knowledge of a substantial body of Iraqi opinion. Since of course there are many Roman Catholics in the US army its by no means an automatic assumption that they would oppose the war quite as forcefully as they have done. Mark Twain certainly knew next to nothing about Iraq but he did know quite a lot about the USA and particularly its international ambitions, since he witnessed the beginning of what has been a long, continuing, consistent process of world domination. As with all Empires, the US has made use of the political difficulties of other parts of the world, entering into alliance with weaker parties in world disputes as it advances its cause. And sometimes that means it is supporting 'just' causes. But the main thing is the extension of US power. As a British citizen I belong to a culture which had a great world empire, maintained by a mixture of brutality, bribes and a thoroughgoing racist confidence in our superiority over all the other peoples of the world. We lost the Empire and I, like many other people in Britain, think this was a Good Thing. I don't want to play any role in the building up of a new one, whether it is our own or the Americans'. It may be that the Iraqis are unable by themselves, or with the aid of their Arab neighbours, to solve their own political problems; but if Hassan and his friends want us to help them (that is to say, a particular faction of the Iraqi population) out then they should bear in mind our interests as well. And it is not in our interests to commit the sort of mass murder we have committed in Iraq over the past twelve years. It is destructive morally, politically, intellectually and even materially as it sets us up as the enemy of the world. If we do help Hassan and his friends to 'liberate' Iraq then I hope fervently that our Iraqi allies will have sufficient national pride to immediately turn against us and knife us in the back. After what we have done since 1991, we will have deserved it. Yours Peter Brooke Dear Elga, list, Since when have we needed to listen to people such as the pope or Mark Twain regarding politics? Does the pope have any clue about what's really going on in Iraq? Probably not, and I'll bet neither do most of the anti-war protesters. Maybe we should get some meaningful opinions, like the ones of the Iraqi people. People whose lives and futures are being discussed around the world without their say being included. If you happen to read some of the high-ranking emails from people in Iraq, you'll find that they'll quickly show their love for Saddam and their hate for any American interference. For those of you who actually believe these people, I'll let you in on a little secret: The average Iraqi would welcome the long overdue war against Saddam with open arms and hearts. They have suffered so much because of Saddam, that they would kiss Ariel Sharon's feet, if he were installed as the puppet for the Americans after Saddam is ousted. Castro is not slaughtering the Cuban people for us to be worrying too much about them right now. We should be focusing on the people who are really suffering. For all you human rights activists: Where have you been the in the last twenty to thirty years? Do you all of a sudden have a voice when the US is finally helping out the Iraqis? Where were your voices when Saddam deported, tortured, and murdered his people? Why are you all of a sudden interested in the estimated number of casualties that will take place when the Americans take out Saddam? These numbers are a mere fraction of the number of lives already lost, and the number of lives that will be lost if Saddam stays. The people that die because of a war with Iraq will end up dying under Saddam's regime. Most Iraqis would rather death than the continuity of Saddam's rule. Let's pray that the Iraqi people stop suffering by making sure the American government finally gets rid of the dictator that inflicts the suffering. Yours, Hassan ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email firstname.lastname@example.org All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk