Re: [casi] I cannae wait

["Bert Gedin" <gedinbert@DELETETHIShotmail.com>]

Dear Diarmud & List,

There certainly are many examples of gruesome so-called behaviour, by UN
troops, you'll find ample such examples on the net. E.g. 'Beasts in
Blue Berets' ('New American', 19.9 -02). -Generally, there are cases from
Somalia, Zaire (Congo), Liberia, Cambodia etc. Before the Vietnam
War, the Korean War, basically fought by China & North Vietnam against
USA with not-quite-democratic South Korea plus some others (poodles?),
ca 1950. Declassified military documents, from the US National Archives,
say, for instance: "US commanders, repeatedly, and without ambiguity,
ordered forces under their control to target and kill Korean refugees caught
on the battlefield." Although there may well also be more worthy examples,
and atrocities were committed on both sides, in Korea, the saying that two
wrongs don't make a right would apply.

As for your MP, it has been said never to leave your opponent with egg in
his face. If Mr. Levett has come round, some of the way, isn't that cause
for some - modified - celebration? Be clear about where you agree & where
you disagree, but use convincing arguments rather than it all degenerating
into a slanging-match, which only serves to make all involved feel
miserable! - And do let the world know how Glossop runs a very successful
anti-war meeting!

Greetings, Bert Gedin (Birmingham).





>From: "Diarmuid" <diarmuidfogarty@onetel.net.uk>
>To: <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk>
>Subject: [casi] I cannae wait
>Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:20:16 +0100
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>On Monday at 7.30pm Glossop Stop the War Campaign is holding a public
>debate on the war. Present will be no other than...Tom Levitt, MP,
>reluctant star of this discussion list. Tom has come round to an anti-war
>position, but reserves the right to support military action taken with the
>blessing of the ever impartial UN (irony). He tells us in the local rag
>today that he 'firmly believe[s] if President Bush hadn't spoken to Tony
>Blair after the attacks on September 11, America would have bombed
>Afghanistan on September 12'. I am sure the thousands of Afghan dead are
>grateful for the few weeks' respite that was bestowed on them by the Empire
>(irony).
>
>What I am keen to do before Monday is to collect enough evidence to smash
>this new tactic of conferring respectability via the UN. I intend to point
>out that the UN will not be consulted, only the members of the Security
>Council, each of whom will have the best interests of their country at
>heart (oil oil oil). I intend to point out that the UN doesn't have a very
>good record of 'doing the right thing'. I will quote how the US government
>browbeat the UN into approving the war against the Viet Namese people. I
>will ask why our politicians are not so vociferous about implementing UN
>resolutions against the Middle Eastern state of Israel (using the
>information given to us byAndrew (17 Sept). But I would greatly appreciate
>any other ammunition you have to offer to show Levitt up for what he is, a
>poodle to The Poodle.
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