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Hi Hassan & list, In a pervious message, I’d marked that one member or two of the list,have nothing but attempts to draw the attention far from the BLOCKADE or the GENOSIDE imposed on Iraq 12 years before, through asking nonsense questions on the Jew in Iraq or rights of homosexuals in Iraq!! Again in a previous message, I asked Sandra to read ( How Hagnah and Mosad Eliminated the Jew) written by Jamil Khalatchi, published in New York, 1998. Jamil, a Jew from Iraq, admitted through documents that he was member in a Zionist organization linked with Hagnah. That org. made its best to force Iraqi Jew to immigrate to Palestine by different terrorists actions. Yet, Sandra did not read the book and began to attack again using that ridicules weapon (Semitism)! If Semitism is her concern, but dose she find a perfect definition for this term? To explain myself I like to say that Elizabeth Taylor was a Christian converted to a Jew after one of her marriages, and now she has rights in Palestine more than Arab! Even she is American from European origin. Semitic means being a grandchild of the prophet Abraham who was a grandchild of Sam. Semitic as a term used for the first time by the Austrian scholar August Ludwig Schloetzer in 1781, to define number of old eastern languages had many relations in pronunciation and other features. In Holy Quran, the children of Israel (Isreal in Holy Quran is Ezaak, son of Abraham)_ are the grandsons of Abraham. Can she tell me how is Taylor one of them? And can she tell me how those who came from Europe became the grandsons of Abraham? Semitic is a dirty game planned by Zionists. I hope that she and the others recognize that Jew is a religion like Islam and Christian. It is not a nationality. But if she insists on defending Semitism, so she must not forget that Palestinians are Semitic, because they are Arab. SCR 687 states that the whole Middle East must be a region empty from MDW, but who is going to force (Israel) to let the international inspectors to inter and inspect? Yes, the WAR against Iraq is just to protect this zionist entity which in its turn protects new imperialism interests in region. The BLOCKADW will begin another year just after one day, and more than 11000 persons die every month in Iraq among them are 5000 children under 5 year of age. Best regards Nermin Al-Mufti, Baghdad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hassan Zeini" <hasseini@maktoob.com> To: <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [casi] Iraq and the New Great Game Sandra (and List), I was surprised at your exaggerated reaction and personal attack on me for expressing my opinions and adding remarks to an analysis for the causes of Bush's war on Iraq. The only knee-jerk response seems to be that of Zionists, who whenever any finger is pointed at Israel or Zionism's role in messing the affairs of the Middle East, start screaming. I am surprised I wasn't accused of being anti-Semitic. That would have been a real joke. Everything in the Middle East IS THE FAULT of the "evil Zionist empire", whether you know that or not, or whether you like that or not. You have to be a victim of Zionism's evil policies to understand that. It is an evil deed, from an evil group, to think it has the right to come to a land, take that land from its people by force, throw those people out, and keep the land under occupation for over half a century, establishing an illegal state in its place. The effects of that evil deed are the cause of all the problems in the Middle East. I don't need lessons in the history of my part of the world to know what happened; I don't either need to ask someone to tell me some invented stories. I lived the Palestinian catastrophe from its beginnings until now, and know and feel the suffering of Arabs. I lived through 4 Israeli wars of aggression, and continue to see the same criminal policies implemented over and over again. And I continue to see how Iraqis are subjected to genocidal killings because Iraq allegedly has WMDs, while Israel has over 200 nuclear heads and tons of chemical and biological weapons without any objections from the "international community". I see how Iraq is punished because it doesn't allow inspectors to come in to look for suspected WMDs, but Israel is given full support when it refuses to allow the UN team that was formed to investigate the Jenin massacre from entering the country. Iraq is punished for allegedly refusing to implement SOME articles of ONE SC resolution, while Israel can defy over 60 SC resolutions without punishment. The only one who should be ashamed is a person who claims to be a "..thoughtful, compassionate human being, who gives consideration to an informed understanding of the Middle East", yet defends Zionism and Israel. If you don't believe in the evil of Israel and Zionism, then I don't know in which world you are living……… In 1919, Arthur Balfour asserted that "Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long tradition, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700 0000 Arabs who now inhabit the ancient land". In 1979, Jimmy Carter told the Israeli Knesset that the relationship between the US and Israel "is indestructible, because it is rooted in the consciousness and morals and the religion and the beliefs of the American people themselves". Throughout the whole insulting message, you never told us what the lies in my message were. I s it a lie that Israel is allowed to develop and produce WMDs, without objection or sanctions? Or is it a lie that Israel is a threat to peace in the area and the world, with incursions and attacks against its neighbors? Or is it a lie that Zionists control decision making on US foreign policy related to the Middle East? JJ Goldberg, editor of the Jewish newspaper The Forward says "AIPAC has a lot of influence on foreign policy. They work hard to ensure that America endorses pretty much Israel's view of the world and the Middle East." Are these the lies that we should be ashamed of, Sandra Lynton? Is it a lie that the US is committed to the protection of Israel to the limit that it was and is prepared to go to war to protect it? Do you think that the US cared about Kuwait or Saudi when it attacked Iraq? If it cared, it wouldn't have allowed missiles that reach those countries, but fail to reach Israel… If the US cared about Human Rights, it wouldn't allow Israel to commit genocide and war crimes against Arabs.. Where are the lies, Sandra Lynton? Is it a lie that Israel was behind the massacre at Sabra and Shatila? Or is it a lie that Israel is the ONLY STATE in the world without internationally recognized borders, because Zionist plans are based on expansionism? And is it a lie that without US support Israel wouldn't have been established, let alone continue for over 50 years? The Jewish community in Iraq was an integral part of Iraqi society, with ministers, doctors, lawyers, teachers and of course businessmen. Your mother's stories are the kind of lies spread by Zionist gangs at that time, and it is unfortunate that she still believes in them, and that you too believe in that garbage. In 1950, bombs went up in a Jewish synagogue in Baghdad, creating panic among the Jews of Iraq amid accusations by Zionists that Jews were being persecuted by Iraqis. The aim was to get them to immigrate to the illegal entity called Israel, built on land taken from its original inhabitants by force. Some Jews believed the fabrication, and left Iraq. Very soon after that, the real people behind the attacks were caught, and came out to be Jews themselves, working for the Zionist gangs which formed the government of Israel. I would suggest that you read Naeim Giladi's article at (http://www.ameu.org/summary1.asp?iid=36). He too is an Iraqi Jew, and lives in the US. Similar attacks were carried out in Egypt by Zionist agents. What murderous atrocities were you referring to? Were the houses of Jews in Iraq bombed with two ton guided bombs from fighter bombers, killing all in them? Were Jews collaborating with Zionist gangs assassinated, or were they given public trials? Were the houses of those collaborators blown up and their families deported? Were their trees pulled out, or their wells destroyed? Or did they have different number plates for their cars? Did the Iraqis shoot babies and children in full view of the world? In 1950, Iraqi Jews were permitted, by the Pro-British Government of Nuri Sa'id, to leave the country within a year provided they forfeited their citizenship. Many would tell you that the British were behind that decision, in order to support the Zionist plan of getting Jews to go to Israel. Of course not all Jews left, and there is still a small Jewish community in Iraq. Those who advise others to think in a historical context, should do so themselves, not listen to stories from mothers or relatives. Moshe Beilinson, wrote in 1948 'Blood always draws in its wake more blood. Blood is always avenged. If we start once on this path, we can not know where it may lead.' He was talking about Jews killing Jews… If you are worried that the world is truly a disturbing place, don't believe and promote lies yourself. In peace HZ _________________________________________________________ A community of almost THREE MILLION Arab Internet users. Become part of it! http://www.maktoob.com _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk