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Hello, Nermin, you shouldn't forget to mention the Zionist's very own police force, who go by the name the Anti-Defamation League. They spend millions of dollars looking for an excuse to call someone an anti-semite! A. Al-Mansour >From: "nermin" <email@example.com> >To: "apeace promise" <firstname.lastname@example.org>, "Kamil Mahdi" ><K.A.Mahdi@exeter.ac.uk> >CC: "soc-casi-discu" <email@example.com> >Subject: Re: [casi] America's new Christian Zionists >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 00:50:00 +0400 > >Hi Kamil, Peggy & all, >I am not going to discuss America’s New Christian Zionist, but I am >interesting in this obscure term Semitic. The term that used by Zionism as >wide as possible in attacking every body or state stands against America or >Israel internists In Holy Quran we read the Children of Israel. It means >those who were the sons and grandsons of Prophet Jacob who was in turn a >grandson of Prophet Abraham, who was in turn the grandson of Sem. So, how >come to a Jewish from Poland to be Semetic! >Sem was from the Arab Pensula region, so his grandsons must have the >features of body and face known in this region. Most of Jewish who came >from >Europe have very western features. They are not the grandsons of Sem. >Moreover, Judaism is a religion not a national. >Zionism, which has not religion, is ready to ally even with Satan toward >the main goal: controlling the world. The worst is that Zionism created by >Jewish. Yet, who is going to explain this in the West without being accused >by anti-samism and sentenced to Jail. Gharodi is an obvious proof. >Regards > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "apeace promise" <firstname.lastname@example.org> >To: "Kamil Mahdi" <K.A.Mahdi@exeter.ac.uk> >Cc: "soc-casi-discu" <email@example.com> >Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 9:09 PM >Subject: Re: [casi] America's new Christian Zionists > > > >[ Presenting plain-text part of multi-format email ] > > Dear Kamil, > I would say that the only thing that is new about all of this is >that >the Zionists have grown in power to the point that they control most of the >National Government. But the agenda for the US supporting Israel has always >been a Zionist agenda. One of the biggest myths on the planet is the reason >why Israel was created. THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF ZIONISM by Ralph Schoenman >speaks of this. There is a film out , a documentary, call THEY CAME IN >PEACE >Part 1 and Part 2. Narrated by Mike Douglas. In the film there is an >interview with the mayor of jerusalem at the time in the 40's. He is a >rabbi. He says he prayed they would not make a seperate Israel. But of >course the US and the UN pushed for it. The US wanted Israel there to be >their arm for Oil and arms.And the UN is doing always what it is told. On >Mother Jones web site you can access all the arms dealers who get rich off >war and selling arms to the highest bidders. What is scary is how much >power >these people wield now not only towards the rest of the world but to it's >own citizens. The legislation being pushed thru the elected bodies violates >us citizens civil rights very strongly. We are probalbly agreeing more than >we disagree. I don't think though that journalist was courageous. It >reminded me of so much of the journalism I am so used to in the US. Loaded >with tons of drama ,that played in reality a small percentage of what >represents the US citizenry. Most of the people he interviewed don't even >get play on the very right wing media in this country.Journalists are not >artists. I know many of them risk their lives to get at stories. Those I >have the highest regard for ,But many are in love with their own dramas >that >they print not realizing what they are putting out in the world.Or not >caring because their paychecks are so large as is the case with some of the >US journalists. Of course it is his right to print or produce whatever he >wants. Just as it is my right to reject it as stirring up the winds of >hatred and panic. > Sincerely, Peggy >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kamil Mahdi >Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 6:52 AM >To: apeace promise >Subject: RE: [casi] America's new Christian Zionists > >Dear Peggy, > >Thanks for your message. Of course, the extreme right is not new and it >has >a >racist aggressive white-supremacist conception of its religion which most >christians abhore. This right is also anti-semitic, but has always been >pro-Israel. There is nothing new in zionist anti-semetic alliances either. >Menachim Begin's Herut Party wanted an alliance with the Nazis in 1933. >One >wanted the Jews out of Europe, the other wanted them in Palestine. > >What has been growing in recent years and what has been admirably reported >by >Stephen Sackur is the shift in US Zionism (the Jewish pro-Israel lobby) to >the >extreme right and the growing alliance with the extreme Christian right, >such >that the US (establishment and media) is now in some respects more Zionist >than Israel itself. America's support is not for the allegedly moderate >Israeli labour party any more, but to Sharon and Netanyahu. I am afraid >the >alliance of the increasingly right-wing (not predominantly democratic party >loyalist as in the past) Jewish lobby with the "Christian Zionists" is very >significant, and it has a stranglehold over US Middle East policy and now >over >the "War on Terrorism" with all its huge implications. Nobody says that >these >biggots are all that the US is, but it seems that even "Big Oil" is now >marginalised in Middle East policy terms. > >On the media, yes BBC News is disgracefully biased towards Israel and it >fans >the flames of war against Iraq in giving credence to government insinuated >rumours, but the BBC should be congratualted when it broadcasts such a >serious >investigative programme. I think Stephen Sackur is extremely courageous. >My regards, >Kamil > > > > >===== Original Message From "apeace promise" <firstname.lastname@example.org> ===== > >Dear Kamil, > > These christian zionists are not anything new. They are the same >ones >that believe in armegedian . In fact one of the pastors interviewed I >believe >said in fact that. They are a scary bunch and have always been. In the US >they >are the same as the David Dukes and George Bush is somewhat in that group. >They are in no way reflective of most of America. > >Though I know the BBC is well respected in England and here in the US. I >often find that their news ,though more honest than most of the American >media, can at times be a bit one sided. Did they cover the story that on >April >20, 35,000 people marched on the capital in support of Palestine with >banners >saying HANDS OFF IRAQ. I would bet not. This last thursday in the >Financial >TImes, there was a story about Britians media and how it is up for sale to >the >highest corporate bidders. I am going to type it on casi when I get a >chance. >Noam Chomsky in the movie "Manufacturing Consent" says propaganda is to >democracy as brutality and killing is to a dictatorship. Western >democracies >are loaded with mostly radio and media stations playing the propaganda >game. >The west by no means has the rightious ground when it comes to the news. >www.freespeech.org is a good media station about some of the >progressive >movements in the US that try to fight these zionists extremists. These >Zionists,they use Sep. 11 in the US as an excuse to come out of the >woodwork. >They were always in the US, just hidden. They are basically Klu Klux Klan >and >skin heads dressed in suits. Sincerely, Peggy > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Kamil Mahdi > >Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 2:30 PM > >To: email@example.com > >Subject: [casi] America's new Christian Zionists > > > >BBC Radio 4 > > Analysis: America's new Christian Zionists > > > > Lobbying for Israel > > > > The Jewish lobby has long been perceived as a powerful influence on >US > >foreign policy > > but, as BBC Washington correspondent Stephen Sackur reveals, Israel >has > >found new > > support from American Christians. > > > > > > Listen to: > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/progs/02/one_offs/a_lobby_to_deal_with07m >ay >.ram > > > > and read: > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1969000/1969542.s >tm > > > >Dr Kamil Mahdi > >University of Exeter > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > >To unsubscribe, visit >http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > >To contact the list manager, email firstname.lastname@example.org > >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > >Dr Kamil Mahdi >University of Exeter > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. >To unsubscribe, visit >http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss >To contact the list manager, email email@example.com >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. >To unsubscribe, visit >http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss >To contact the list manager, email firstname.lastname@example.org >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. 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