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Re: [casi] America's new Christian Zionists

Hi Kamil, Peggy & all,
I am not going to discuss America’s New Christian Zionist, but I am
interesting in this obscure term Semitic. The term that used by Zionism as
wide as possible in attacking every body or state stands against America or
Israel internists In Holy Quran we read the Children of Israel. It means
those who were the sons and grandsons of Prophet Jacob who was in turn a
grandson of Prophet Abraham, who was in turn the grandson of Sem. So, how
come to a Jewish from Poland to be Semetic!
Sem was from the Arab Pensula region, so his grandsons must have the
features of body and face known in this region. Most of Jewish who came from
Europe have very western features. They are not the grandsons of Sem.
Moreover, Judaism is a religion not a national.
Zionism, which has not religion, is ready to ally even with Satan toward
the main goal: controlling the world. The worst is that Zionism created by
Jewish. Yet, who is going to explain this in the West without being accused
by anti-samism and sentenced to Jail. Gharodi is an obvious proof.

----- Original Message -----
From: "apeace promise" <>
To: "Kamil Mahdi" <>
Cc: "soc-casi-discu" <>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [casi] America's new Christian Zionists

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 Dear Kamil,
       I would say that the only thing that is new about all of this is that
the Zionists have grown in power to the point that they control most of the
National Government. But the agenda for the US supporting Israel has always
been a Zionist agenda. One of the biggest myths on the planet is the reason
why Israel was created. THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF ZIONISM  by Ralph Schoenman
speaks of this. There is a film out , a documentary, call THEY CAME IN PEACE
Part 1 and Part 2.   Narrated by Mike Douglas.  In the film there is an
interview with the mayor of jerusalem at the time in the 40's. He is a
rabbi. He says he prayed they would not make a seperate Israel. But of
course the US and the UN pushed for it. The US wanted Israel there to be
their arm for Oil and arms.And the UN is doing always what it is told. On
Mother Jones web site you can access all the arms dealers who get rich off
war and selling arms to the highest bidders. What is scary is how much power
these people wield now not only towards the rest of the world but to it's
own citizens. The legislation being pushed thru the elected bodies violates
us citizens civil rights very strongly. We are probalbly agreeing more than
we disagree. I don't think though that journalist was courageous. It
reminded me of so much of the journalism I am so used to in the US. Loaded
with tons of drama ,that played in reality a small percentage of what
represents the US citizenry. Most of the people he interviewed don't even
get play on the very right wing media in this country.Journalists are not
artists. I know many of them risk their lives to get at stories. Those I
have the highest regard for ,But many are in love with their own dramas that
they print not realizing what they are putting out in the world.Or not
caring because their paychecks are so large as is the case with some of the
US journalists.  Of course it is his right to print or produce whatever he
wants. Just as it is my right to reject it as stirring up the winds of
hatred and panic.
 Sincerely, Peggy
----- Original Message -----
From: Kamil Mahdi
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 6:52 AM
To: apeace promise
Subject: RE: [casi] America's new Christian Zionists

Dear Peggy,

Thanks for your message.  Of course, the extreme right is not new and it has
racist aggressive white-supremacist conception of its religion which most
christians abhore.  This right is also anti-semitic, but has always been
pro-Israel.  There is nothing new in zionist anti-semetic alliances either.
Menachim Begin's Herut Party wanted an alliance with the Nazis in 1933.  One
wanted the Jews out of Europe, the other wanted them in Palestine.

What has been growing in recent years and what has been admirably reported
Stephen Sackur is the shift in US Zionism (the Jewish pro-Israel lobby) to
extreme right and the growing alliance with the extreme Christian right,
that the US (establishment and media) is now in some respects more Zionist
than Israel itself.  America's support is not for the allegedly moderate
Israeli labour party any more, but to Sharon and Netanyahu.  I am afraid the
alliance of the increasingly right-wing (not predominantly democratic party
loyalist as in the past) Jewish lobby with the "Christian Zionists" is very
significant, and it has a stranglehold over US Middle East policy and now
the "War on Terrorism" with all its huge implications.  Nobody says that
biggots are all that the US is, but it seems that even "Big Oil" is now
marginalised in Middle East policy terms.

On the media, yes BBC News is disgracefully biased towards Israel and it
the flames of war against Iraq in giving credence to government insinuated
rumours, but the BBC should be congratualted when it broadcasts such a
investigative programme.  I think Stephen Sackur is extremely courageous.
My regards,

>===== Original Message From "apeace promise" <> =====
>Dear Kamil,
>      These christian zionists are not anything new. They are the same ones
that believe in armegedian  . In fact one of the pastors interviewed I
said in fact that. They are a scary bunch and have always been. In the US
are the same as the David Dukes and George Bush is  somewhat in that group.
They are  in no way reflective of most of America.
>Though I know the BBC is well respected in England and here in the US. I
often find that their news ,though more honest than most of the American
media, can at times be a bit one sided. Did they cover the story that on
20, 35,000 people marched on the capital in support of Palestine with
saying  HANDS OFF IRAQ.  I would bet not. This last thursday in the
TImes, there was a story about Britians media and how it is up for sale to
highest corporate bidders. I am going to type it on casi when I get a
Noam Chomsky in the movie "Manufacturing Consent" says  propaganda is to
democracy as brutality and killing is to a dictatorship. Western democracies
are loaded with mostly radio and media stations playing the propaganda game.
The west by no means has the rightious ground when it comes to the news.      is a good media station about some of the
movements in the US that try to fight these zionists extremists. These
Zionists,they use Sep. 11 in the US as an excuse to come out of the
They were always in the US, just hidden. They are basically Klu Klux Klan
skin heads dressed in suits.   Sincerely, Peggy
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kamil Mahdi
>Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 2:30 PM
>Subject: [casi] America's new Christian Zionists
>BBC Radio 4
>     Analysis: America's new Christian Zionists
>     Lobbying for Israel
>     The Jewish lobby has long been perceived as a powerful influence on US
>foreign policy
>     but, as BBC Washington correspondent Stephen Sackur reveals, Israel
>found new
>     support from American Christians.
>     Listen to:
>     and read:
>Dr Kamil Mahdi
>University of Exeter
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