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Re: [casi] FW: US NATO Cohorts 'Ready For Iraq'



 Hi Felicity & all,
 It is very natural that EU backed a new strike against Iraq! The issue is
not President Saddam but to escape from their conscious, if they have any!
After what had happened and still in Palestine, especially Janin. They try
to explain to their nations that they do have a human heart and conscious.
So, the best way is to attack Iraq according to whatever reason!
 It is useless to be after US administration. The all must understand this
point. Pakistan puts the army on alert because US is going to attack, the
reason is that many of Taliban and Al-Qaida members are in Pakistan. We all
remember the support given by Musharaf to US during the aggression against
Afghanistan, moreover Pakistan officially reported that they would not
allowed to any (aggressive) action against US. But, does US need any reason
to damage the others. I know that EU is not Pakistan or the south, still, US
is ready to attack EU at least economically. Did EU forget Banana War, which
led by US two years before.
 It is BLACK COMEDY, is not it?
 Best regards
 Nermin Al-Mufti, Baghdad, Iraq

----- Original Message -----
From: "farbuthnot" <asceptic@freenetname.co.uk>
To: <soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk>; <al-Awda-unity@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:46 PM
Subject: [casi] FW: US NATO Cohorts 'Ready For Iraq'


> With thanks again to Rick Rozoff of STOP NATO. Friends - this seems to fly
> in the face of the caution - largely - expressed by Europe - even Blair
now
> saying he would not back an attack without UN approval (but he did also
says
> EU!) I am unaware of this Conference and the names - right wing hawks or a
> genuine reflection of concensus? I note Haine's comment re the killing of
> the French engineers - but how does this bring Iraq into the equation.
> "Round up the usual suspects' comes to mind.
>
> What is it Iraq has done, other than have Saddam as leader - after all,
> Israel has Sharon ... best, f.
>
>
> Conference: Europeans 'ready for Iraq'
> By Martin Walker
> UPI Chief International Correspondent
> >From the  International Desk
> Published 5/11/2002 1:28 PM
> FLORENCE, Italy, May 11 (UPI) -- A majority of the
> European Union's 15 nations are now expected to
> support President George Bush's plans for "regime
> change" in Iraq, and many of them are prepared to
> offer military support, a conference of American and
> European scholars on transatlantic relations concluded
> Saturday.
> "The mood in France has changed after the dramas of
> the presidential election campaign and the bombing in
> Karachi that killed 11 French naval engineers last
> week," said Jean Haine, who teaches international
> relations at Paris's prestigious Sciences Po
> Institute. "Indeed, I expect France to seek to rejoin
> NATO's unified military command later this year."
> Despite widespread forebodings of a serious split
> between the United States and its European allies over
> military action against Iraq, and public warnings
> against it by both French and German political
> leaders, a broad range of European experts agreed that
> their governments would comply.
> "There may still be problems with European opinion,
> but those problems will not outlast TV images of
> cheering Iraqis -- just as the swift victory in
> Afghanistan stilled earlier European qualms," Michael
> Cox of the University of Wales told the Villa Le Balze
> conference in Florence.
> Europeans expressed readiness to support a U.S.-led
> operation against Iraq, at least in part, after it was
> presented by Bush administration officials as a litmus
> test of the loyalty of European allies at a time when
> America felt itself at war.
> "On this litmus test, it is yes or no. There is not
> question of negotiation. For the Bush administration
> the question is: are you with us or against us?" Haine
> said. This did not leave the Europeans with many
> options, Haine added.
> Organized jointly by the U.S.-based universities of
> Dartmouth and Georgetown, with widespread European
> participation, the Le Balze conference concluded that
> up to half of the 15 EU member states, led by Britain,
> could be expected to offer some military backing.
> Germany, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Holland, Portugal and
> France were all seen as "likely participants" in a
> U.S.-led coalition.
> "We could see a majority of the EU members back the
> operation against Iraq," said Roberto Menotti of
> Rome's Center for International Political Studies,
> noting the elections had put conservative governments
> in power in Italy, Austria, Denmark and Portugal who
> were more in tune with the Bush administration.
> "A great deal will depend on the manner of
> presentation," said Steven Everts, a Dutch scholar at
> the London-based Center for European Reform. "An
> argument by Vice President Dick Cheney that Iraq is a
> menace will carry less weight than an argument by
> Secretary of State Colin Powell that Iraq is defying a
> United Nations resolution demanding the return of
> international inspectors into Iraq's development of
> weapons of mass destruction.
> "Now that there is a U.N. resolution on 'smart
> sanctions' against Iraq, the task of rallying an
> international coalition to enforce inspections becomes
> considerably easier," Everts said. "Europeans will
> still have questions about what -- or who -- comes
> after Saddam Hussein, and how long the Americans are
> prepared to stay for the necessary work of
> reconstruction."
> The group in general stressed there were wider and
> longer-term concerns about American "unilateralism,"
> its readiness to go it alone in working with allies,
> and its reluctance to take part in international
> agreements like the Kyoto Protocol on global warming
> and the International Criminal Court. But Europe's
> reluctance to build up its own modern military forces
> and the high degree of economic interdependence
> between the U.S. and Europe meant that the Atlantic
> Alliance was likely to continue broadly unchanged.
> Indeed, the alliance broadly expected NATO to be
> enlarged at a summit later this year by as many as
> seven new member states from Eastern Europe.
>
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