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Re: Re: [casi] media!!!



Mr. Alaskary, I am not clear how this sort of dialogue is productive.  You continue to attempt to 
impeach the character of members of this list.  Nermin, Gaz, and now Felicity.  I would think a 
little less vitriol would be appropriate.  As to the character of these people I am not clear how 
you have become the judge and jury for them.  At the same time I am sure that you do this for 
reasons that you feel are valid and thus validate the dialogue.  I would however, like to 'hear' 
less of it.  Perhaps when you are going to write something negative about any of the contributors 
of this list you could warn those of us who wish not to read it by noting it in the subject line.  
Then of course I could exercise one of my rights by engaging the delete button with one of the 
fingers on my right hand.  Perhaps I am in the minority here and if so I apologize.

I would imagine that most people would feel that SH is not someone we might like as a neighbor.  I 
would also imagine that there are many who are concerned with who would replace him.
I also have a great sense of trepidation at any outside forces making the determination as to who 
that replacement would be.  Perhaps I missed felicity's point, but I imagine that she is concerned 
that anyone that the US installed would not be acceptable to the people of Iraq and potentially 
would cause even more needless suffering for a people that have suffered quite enough.  Perhaps 
ending sanctions is the first order of business for those of us who share felicity's concerns.  SH 
may in fact not be the person who we would choose to rule over the people of Iraq, alas I am not 
clear which of us is.

Felicity, Nermin, and Gaz, hopefully I have not usurped your rights to speak for yourselves.  I 
hope we all have a peaceful and productive day.
PEACE




In a message dated Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:02:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Yasser Alaskary" 
<ya1980@hotmail.com> writes:

>Hi,
>
>I think you've missed several important points.
>
>You say:
>
>>Before we in the west make further plans for Iraq - apparently excluding
>>Iraqis in Iraq from any say on their destiny'
>
>Excluding Iraqis in Iraq? Iraqis in Iraq don't have a say, the only voice
>that comes out of Iraq is that of the brutal regime, and I cannot understand
>for the life of me why such an oppressive voice should be listened. All
>other voices are executed and murdered in Iraq - what voice are you exactly
>refering to?
>
>Secondly, it was Nermin Al-Mufti - the famous journalist and member of the
>murderous regime of Saddam Hussein - who was complaining of how bad the
>media is in the West, so your advise 'we should put our own house in order'
>should be directed at her. I and Ahmed only pointed out the hypocrisy of
>what she was saying.
>
>Finally, I have an honest question for you. Why is it that you are always
>quick to rebutt or diffuse any criticism of Saddam Hussein's regime and its
>members? Glancing through the archives, it's just a pattern I have noticed,
>but I may be wrong.
>
>Regards,
>Yasser
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "farbuthnot" <asceptic@freenetname.co.uk>
>To: soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk
>Subject: [casi] media!!!
>Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:50:14 +0100
>
>How many people have been executed in Afghanistan, with the media largely
>unallowed any access to the truth? How many in Palestine? How many have been
>disappeared to Guantamano Bay whose names, ages - any form of identity we
>are not allowed to know, what of the reported possibly 10,000 people of
>allegedly Muslim background who have been jailed in the States with their
>families unable to even find where they are?
>
>Before we in the west make further plans for Iraq - apparently excluding
>Iraqis in Iraq from any say on their destiny - we should put our own house
>in order.
>
>When it comes to repression one needs look no further than Fort Benning,
>Georgia (School of the Americas) which has trained the most repressive
>regimes on earth in the arts of torture and terror.
>(A glance at their torture manual is instructive.)
>
>
>
>best, felicity a.
>
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