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Couldn't agree more, Chris. Its unbelievable we're even having to have a discussion on this matter. Chuck the racist poster off the list and let's get on with it. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chris.Williams@open.ac.uk> To: <soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:30 PM Subject: Why CASI ought not to be associated with Holocaust deniers > > I was hoping that this should be obvious, but it seems that it isn't, so > I'll spell it out. > > 1) They are irrational liars. CASI has made people sit up and take note by > having a command of reasoned argument based on verified facts. Holocaust > denial is firmly rooted in falsehood, as the recent 'Irving Trial' [Irving > was the prosecutor, not the defendant] demonstrated very well. Irving is one > of the cleverest and best-informed of the deniers, and even his stuff can be > pulled to bits by two or three people who know the archives. > > 2) They are evil and nasty people who would get rid of most of us if they > triumph: their ideal world is actually _worse_ than the extremely screwed-up > one that we live in now. > > 3) Their prescence discredits us among those whose support we need. The > point is to change the world: to get a result. Giving these people a > platform will not move us in that direction, because . . . > > 4) Pro-Zionists and pro-US apologists absolutely *love* it when people on > our side confuse anti-Zionism and pro-Arab politics [ie respect for > humanity] with anti-Semitism. It plays into their hands by strengthening a > central tenet of racist Zionism, which holds that all anti-Zionism is the > same as anti-Semitism. I've heard this from Zionists. Of course, it isn't > true: indeed, in order to retract the diaspora into the state of Israel, > many Zionists connived with anti-Semitism. > > 5) It's off-topic. The post was a spam message advertising a website that > has nothing to do with ending sanctions on Iraq. > > Chris Williams > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chas > To: soc-casi-discuss > Sent: 10/01/02 14:08 > > Why expel him? because the material he posted was racist. Or is that not > enough? > Chas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tim buckley" < <mailto:tim.buckley@tesco.net> > tim.buckley@tesco.net> > To: < <mailto:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> > soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:19 PM > Subject: Re: Revisionist Historian: News You May Have Missed > > > > Why? If we expelled everyone who posts (in my view) innaccurate > material > > there would be few people on this list. Or are the rest of us perfect? > > Regards, Tim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: < <mailto:Chris.Williams@open.ac.uk> Chris.Williams@open.ac.uk> > > To: < <mailto:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> > soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:08 AM > > Subject: RE: Revisionist Historian: News You May Have Missed > > > > > > This is a link to a Nazi holocaust denial site. > > > > Can someone pull 'Giuffre' from this discussion group, please? > > > > Chris Williams > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Giuffré > > To: <mailto:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> > soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk > > Sent: 10/01/02 05:45 > > Subject: Revisionist Historian: News You May Have Missed > > > > > > <http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html> > http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html > > <<news.html>> > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on > Iraq > > For removal from list, email > <mailto:soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk> > soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk > > CASI's website - <http://www.casi.org.uk> www.casi.org.uk - includes > an archive of all postings. > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on > Iraq > > For removal from list, email > <mailto:soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk> > soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk > > CASI's website - <http://www.casi.org.uk> www.casi.org.uk - includes > an archive of all postings. > > > <http://www.icons.com> > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq > For removal from list, email soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk > CASI's website - www.casi.org.uk - includes an archive of all postings. > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq For removal from list, email soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk CASI's website - www.casi.org.uk - includes an archive of all postings.