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Re: Why CASI ought not to be associated with Holocaust deniers



Couldn't agree more, Chris. Its unbelievable we're even having to have a
discussion on this matter. Chuck the racist poster off the list and let's
get on with it.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Chris.Williams@open.ac.uk>
To: <soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: Why CASI ought not to be associated with Holocaust deniers


>
> I was hoping that this should be obvious, but it seems that it isn't, so
> I'll spell it out.
>
> 1) They are irrational liars. CASI has made people sit up and take note by
> having a command of reasoned argument based on verified facts. Holocaust
> denial is firmly rooted in falsehood, as the recent 'Irving Trial' [Irving
> was the prosecutor, not the defendant] demonstrated very well. Irving is
one
> of the cleverest and best-informed of the deniers, and even his stuff can
be
> pulled to bits by two or three people who know the archives.
>
> 2) They are evil and nasty people who would get rid of most of us if they
> triumph: their ideal world is actually _worse_ than the extremely
screwed-up
> one that we live in now.
>
> 3) Their prescence discredits us among those whose support we need. The
> point is to change the world: to get a result. Giving these people a
> platform will not move us in that direction, because . . .
>
> 4) Pro-Zionists and pro-US apologists absolutely *love* it when people on
> our side confuse anti-Zionism and pro-Arab politics [ie respect for
> humanity] with anti-Semitism. It plays into their hands by strengthening a
> central tenet of racist Zionism, which holds that all anti-Zionism is the
> same as anti-Semitism. I've heard this from Zionists. Of course, it isn't
> true: indeed, in order to retract the diaspora into the state of Israel,
> many Zionists connived with anti-Semitism.
>
> 5) It's off-topic. The post was a spam message advertising a website that
> has nothing to do with ending sanctions on Iraq.
>
> Chris Williams
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chas
> To: soc-casi-discuss
> Sent: 10/01/02 14:08
>
> Why expel him? because the material he posted was racist. Or is that not
> enough?
> Chas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tim buckley" <  <mailto:tim.buckley@tesco.net>
> tim.buckley@tesco.net>
> To: <  <mailto:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk>
> soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk>
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Revisionist Historian: News You May Have Missed
>
>
> > Why?   If we expelled everyone who posts (in my view) innaccurate
> material
> > there would be few people on this list. Or are the rest of us perfect?
> > Regards,   Tim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <  <mailto:Chris.Williams@open.ac.uk> Chris.Williams@open.ac.uk>
> > To: <  <mailto:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk>
> soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:08 AM
> > Subject: RE: Revisionist Historian: News You May Have Missed
> >
> >
> > This is a link to a Nazi holocaust denial site.
> >
> > Can someone pull 'Giuffre' from this discussion group, please?
> >
> > Chris Williams
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Giuffré
> > To:  <mailto:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk>
> soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk
> > Sent: 10/01/02 05:45
> > Subject: Revisionist Historian: News You May Have Missed
> >
> >
> >  <http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html>
> http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html
> >  <<news.html>>
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