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I was hoping that this should be obvious, but it seems that it isn't, so I'll spell it out. 1) They are irrational liars. CASI has made people sit up and take note by having a command of reasoned argument based on verified facts. Holocaust denial is firmly rooted in falsehood, as the recent 'Irving Trial' [Irving was the prosecutor, not the defendant] demonstrated very well. Irving is one of the cleverest and best-informed of the deniers, and even his stuff can be pulled to bits by two or three people who know the archives. 2) They are evil and nasty people who would get rid of most of us if they triumph: their ideal world is actually _worse_ than the extremely screwed-up one that we live in now. 3) Their prescence discredits us among those whose support we need. The point is to change the world: to get a result. Giving these people a platform will not move us in that direction, because . . . 4) Pro-Zionists and pro-US apologists absolutely *love* it when people on our side confuse anti-Zionism and pro-Arab politics [ie respect for humanity] with anti-Semitism. It plays into their hands by strengthening a central tenet of racist Zionism, which holds that all anti-Zionism is the same as anti-Semitism. I've heard this from Zionists. Of course, it isn't true: indeed, in order to retract the diaspora into the state of Israel, many Zionists connived with anti-Semitism. 5) It's off-topic. The post was a spam message advertising a website that has nothing to do with ending sanctions on Iraq. Chris Williams -----Original Message----- From: Chas To: soc-casi-discuss Sent: 10/01/02 14:08 Why expel him? because the material he posted was racist. Or is that not enough? Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim buckley" < <mailto:tim.buckley@tesco.net> tim.buckley@tesco.net> To: < <mailto:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Revisionist Historian: News You May Have Missed > Why? If we expelled everyone who posts (in my view) innaccurate material > there would be few people on this list. Or are the rest of us perfect? > Regards, Tim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: < <mailto:Chris.Williams@open.ac.uk> Chris.Williams@open.ac.uk> > To: < <mailto:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:08 AM > Subject: RE: Revisionist Historian: News You May Have Missed > > > This is a link to a Nazi holocaust denial site. > > Can someone pull 'Giuffre' from this discussion group, please? > > Chris Williams > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Giuffré > To: <mailto:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk> soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk > Sent: 10/01/02 05:45 > Subject: Revisionist Historian: News You May Have Missed > > > <http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html> http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html > <<news.html>> > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq > For removal from list, email <mailto:soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk> soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk > CASI's website - <http://www.casi.org.uk> www.casi.org.uk - includes an archive of all postings. > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq > For removal from list, email <mailto:soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk> soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk > CASI's website - <http://www.casi.org.uk> www.casi.org.uk - includes an archive of all postings. > <http://www.icons.com> -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq For removal from list, email soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk CASI's website - www.casi.org.uk - includes an archive of all postings.