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Thought I'd send this reply to the CASI and IAC groups, too, to see if anyone had any comments regarding this. I hadn't realised a memorial to muslims might be Haram. I'll certainly look into that, as Moonirah suggests. And of course, I wouldn't put up a memorial of any sort without consulting appropriate people (indeed, I considered my original message to be part of that consultation, which is why I asked for comments). Before putting up a memorial I had intended to consult Muslim friends on Islamic etiquette, so I would hopefully have avoided the international incident you predict! If the idea of a memorial is out, does that mean one cannot compile a list of those murdered? A memorial was secondary to my original idea of a list of the dead that would stand as a testament to the evil of sanctions. However, I suppose this could be considered a memorial too. As I understand, there are a fair few christians and other non-muslims living under the sanctions regime, so a memorial to these people would be possible. Also, Moonirah, you say memorials to muslims are haram under Shariah law. Are there muslims for whom this isn't haram who could have a memorial? Anyway, at the moment this is all academic, as I haven't the time to work on this, nor a list of names. I'd appreciate any more comments on this Ronan KUWAIT605@aol.com wrote: > > Sent to:soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk (casi), iac-discussion@egroups.com > (iac) > > Ronan and contributors. Internet Website Memorial to Muslims ?? Wa' Allahi > !! > > With respect, with your intentions to assist a majority Muslim country's > people in Iraq you now risk an immense insult and to Muslims here plus all > over the world, an illegal act, which would greatly offend those whom you > strive to help. May I, as just one practising Muslim, please suggest that > you at first consult with practising Muslim Iraqis prior to action plan tasks > being done ? > > Honestly, you may not yet be aware of the massive response that will be > incurred in Britain, America and beyond, if you individually or collectively > fail to handle such matters with consideration to Islamic law and the wishes > of Iraqi Muslims. > > The best thing that you could all do henceforth is collect a network of > practising Iraqi Muslim men who have the knowledge, ability and authority > from our Muslim Ummah > [ Muslim World Community ] though dispersed around the globe, to consult > first. > For example, commence by sending an email to Brother Saad Rashid in the UK > [University Lecturer] who can put you all in touch with the most appropriate > contacts for UK, USA and abroad. > > As my Iraqi contacts have clearly asserted to me about well meaning > humanitarians - they have not really asked the Iraqi people what THEY want > for their own country. > Email: s.rashid@freeiraq.freeserve.co.uk > In peace, > Moonirah > > Peruse "Hansard" for the latest on "Kuwait 605" > click the British Foreign Office link on our site:- > http://www.angelfire.com/journal/kuwaiti605 > Assalamo alaman ittaba'al hoodah. > Regards from Moonirah. > British Voluntary Co-ordinator. > HELP, WALES, UK. > :-) > =============================================== > > Subj: (no subject) > Date: 10/06/00 19:58:23 GMT Daylight Time > From: doddsnet@netscapeonline.co.uk (doddsnet) > Sender: soc-casi-discuss-ro-request@lists.cam.ac.uk > To: soc-casi-discuss@lists.cam.ac.uk (casi), iac-discussion@egroups.com > (iac) > > Hi all > > Was wondering if anyone on either of these lists has, or knows where I > could get, a list of the names of people killed in US and UK strikes on > Iraq since the end of the Gulf War? I'd like, ideally, a list of names, > ages, occupation, date of killing and location of killing. I think it > would be a good idea to put something of this sort up onto a website as > a small memorial. Has anyone done this already? > I was also wondering if it was possible to make a list of people who > have died through malnutrition and lack of medicines. I realise this > would be a massive list, but a start could at least be made. Even if > the list is not comprehensive, a few details about the dead helps people > to realise that these statistics have real people behind them, and are > more than just numbers. I imagine that a huge list of thousands of > names could be a very powerful and moving testament to why sanctions > should be lifted. If anyone thinks this idea of listing the dead is morbid, > or in bad taste, I welcome comments. > Ronan > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------------------------- > This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq > For removal from list, email soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk > Full details of CASI's various lists can be found on the CASI website: > http://welcome.to/casi -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq For removal from list, email soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk Full details of CASI's various lists can be found on the CASI website: http://welcome.to/casi