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I've been hesitant to engage in this debate but one of statements in M's most recent posting on it (21/11/99), namely that: > The 'Gulf war' is a good example of a mismatched war. Estimated 150,000 > Iraqi soldiers killed. reminded me of a previous posting to this list (archived at http://linux.clare.cam.ac.uk/~saw27/trial/315.html). In this, I reported that Freedman and Karsh's book seemed to me to provide a more sensitive assessment of deaths resulting from the Gulf War. While you can read that posting for further details, the figures that they report are the result of a year's analysis (the 150,000 figures seem to be quickly conjured up during the war) and are considerably lower. As an aside, throughout this debate on the use of the word "genocide", I've wondered how productive this is. As none of us, to my knowledge, are currently in the position of charging members of our governments, our debate is not refining a legal argument. Instead, we seem to be wondering whether we can use this in public discourse. My own sense is that, however right or wrong its use, an ability to call what is happening in Iraq "genocide" may not strengthen our case publicly. Indeed, if the debate that we see here is at all reflective of what members of the public, less concerned about the situation there than we are, might think, my suspicion is that the use of the word "genocide" may primarily be divisive. Could I ask individuals interested in responding to these remarks to reply DIRECTLY to me rather than to the whole list? I'm concerned that this thread may be of decreasing interest to members. Thanks, Colin Rowat *********************************************** Coordinator, Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq http://welcome.to/casi *********************************************** 393 King's College Cambridge CB2 1ST tel: +44 (0)468 056 984 England fax: +44 (0)1223 335 219 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To be removed/added, email soc-casi-discuss-request@lists.cam.ac.uk, NOT the whole list. Please do not send emails with attached files to the list *** Archived at http://linux.clare.cam.ac.uk/~saw27/casi/discuss.html ***