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"In other words return Iraq to it's pre-Kuwait invasion state. A US client that waged a brutal war against Iran (backed by the west, or more correctly pushed) and carried out a long history of murderous assaults on the Kurdish people as it still does today. Many others have commented on this issue. I felt it the issue needed some context and historical perspective although there is still a lot more to say. M" I have some comments in response to M's comments: 1. Iraq simply was not a "client" of the US during that period. Iraq was trying very hard to improve relations with Washington, but it certainly cannot be labeled a client-state. 2. The Iran-Iraq war. Iran certainly was not an innocent victim. Iran at that time was being ruled by the most extreme reactionary elements who needed a foreign crisis to consolidate power and to decimate the leftist and progressive forces. The revolutionary regime had inherited the massive army of the Shah, who the US had armed to the teeth. Iran is three times the size and three times the population of Iraq. The new Iranian regime targeted Iraq, as the next logical step to export the Islamic "revolution". The new Iranian regime hated Iraq's secular government and society. Iran conducted an extensive campaign of terrorist bombings and assasination attempts inside Iraq, and even started shelling Iraqi border towns--all before the war started. If Iran had even done half of that against the US, you can be sure that the US would have gone to war too!! It takes two to fight a war. Don't lay all the blame on Iraq. And no matter how it started, there is absolutely no question that the Iranian regime prolonged that war for years and years. Years when so many people died and so much potential of both countries was wasted. The Iran-Iraq war was a terrible war, it set the entire region back decades, it destroyed the potential of the two most beautiful and advanced countries in the region. So many people suffered so very much because of that terrible war. It is simply unjust, unfair and completely inaccurate to lay all the blame for this on Iraq!! 3. And as for the comment about a "long history of murderous assaults on the Kurdish people". First you should know the history of northern Iraq. For the last 150 armed Kurdish groups have consistently harassed and periodically massacred the non-Kurdish populations of that region. The Assyrians/Chaldeans and Armenians were brutally massacred by Kurdish guerillas (before, during AND after World War I). Even today in the safe haven, non-Kurds (Assyrians/Chaldeans, Yezidis, Armenians, Arabs, Turcomen) live in a state of fear. A massacre is a massacre and must be condemned no matter who commits it, BUT you give a completely wrong impression when you only speak of Kurds as victims without giving the other side of the story. And of course, it is well known that the Kurds were given far more rights and respect in Iraq, than in either Turkey or Iran (including the Monarchy and the Islamic Republic). Stan ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a discussion list run by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To be removed/added, email email@example.com, NOT the whole list. Please do not send emails with attached files to the list *** Archived at http://linux.clare.cam.ac.uk/~saw27/casi/discuss.html ***