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[ This message has been sent to you via the CASI-analysis mailing list ] [ Presenting plain-text part of multi-format email ] email@example.com writes: You correctly note that Iraq will slip into further violence yet still advocate the removal of troops at this time... Then it'll be a matter of which group is the most ruthless in its fight to control Iraq. The Iraqi people won't win. Iraq will return to dictatorship.... This looks more like a 'principled' point of view, lacking in pragmatism or care for Iraq. It is clear that Iraq continues to "slip into further violence" It is clear that the USA and its coalition of the willing has been and continues to be "ruthless in its fight to control Iraq" bombing neighborhoods, torturing individuals who are incarcerated as well as the citizens at large via continuing lack of security, water, and electricity In fact, the notion that the removal of troops is a first step is completely pragmatic and filled with care for the Iraqi people. The alternative is a protracted situation which will not in fact provide any form of democracy for the people but rather some proxy state in subservience to the will of the USA where democracy is suppressed in favor of empire and corporate gain. I believe Peter's argument had to do with a long-term solution where ultimately the Iraqi people could chart their own course rather than a short term suppression of the people which is likely to provide a long-term fertile environment for the insurgents for years to come. Roger Stroope Flagstaff, USA Department of Anthropology Northern Arizona University 'Bring them on!" President Bush challenged the early Iraqi insurgency in July of last year. Since then, 812 American soldiers have been killed and 6,290 wounded, according to the Pentagon. 9/16/04 _______________________________________ Sent via the CASI-analysis mailing list To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-analysis All postings are archived on CASI's website at http://www.casi.org.uk